audio video sync changes between audio view & timeline v

[radman2020]

I get my audio tracks and video perfectly aligned in audio view. I switch to timeline view and they are off by a hair... enough that the singer looks like she is on the wrong part of the word and the tambourine misses the beat. When I output to video, the output is off like the timeline!!!

what do I do? what is wrong? this messes everything up!!!

[lancecarr]

Ok!
First, you scroll to the top of the page you are now viewing and click "Profile." Then you fill in your system info.

Second, you go here and read this then come back with all the data:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=8959

After all that we are good to go!

[radman2020]

did what I could do.. put in everything but motherboard

[lancecarr]

Thanks for that, now the other link has info we REALLY need to try to work out the problem. In short these are important bits;

Describe your problem: I think we have the picture there.

Properties of your source files (format, file size, where did you get it?)
This is important, right click on the files in VS and post those properties back here.

Product Version: e.g. VS10 or VS11+

[radman2020]

vs11+

dv video encoder
microsoft avi
29.97 fps
24 bit 720 x 480 16:9
dv audio ntsc
32000khz

[lancecarr]

Are you adding a separate audio track that goes out of sync? or, is the audio of the original file drifting out?
If you are adding audio is it MP3?

Be patient on all the question! We can't "see" your computer.

[radman2020]

it is an mp3.

it is synched perfectly all the way through.. but when I go to timeline, it has shifted slightly.

I can nudge it a bit out of synch in audio and then it is fine in timeline...but why should there be a discrepancy?


Also, on an unrelated matter, is there any way to zoom my image in?
Also, last question. I want to transition or fade the beginning and end of the video. How do I do that if there is no image before or after?

[lancecarr]

Ok! Now we are nearly done!

First of all the out of sync.
MP3's are a highly compressed format and have their own internal time code. Additionally there are various MP3 codecs around, some better than others and some more condusive to this type of manipulation than others. The recommendation here is that at the first sign of trouble with them it is better to convert them to wav files. If you have a Nero suite on your computer you may have a program called Nero Wave Editor. You can use that to convert. If not there is a very powerful and FREE audio editor called Audacity (just Google it) that can be used to quickly convert these files.

You can zoom in on things by going to the "Filters" and you will find a Pan and Zoom filter there. You can manipulate the properties so that it statically is zoomed on the file or it can progressively zoom in as well as pan across in many different ways.

To get a fade in just select "Color" and drag a black block to the beginning of the timeline then add a crossfade transistion. This will give you a "Fade from black" effect.

[radman2020]

thanks..

I use and love audacity....

I will do the wave!

thanks for the other tips...

I used to use roxio... it wasn't near as good as this but it had some nice features like a zoom, brightness and contrast control etc... Your method will work but it is not something I would have thought of on my own...

one last question. when I click on an audio track, say to change the volume...it almost always moves me to the beginning of the track. This drives me crazy because I then have to find the point where I was. Is there a way to stop it from doing this?

thx

[lancecarr]

The zoom - brightness etc controls you are talking about are, in VS, designated as filters. The reason is that if you go into the advanced features of any one of them you will find quite powerful controls available there. Most notably you can make use of "key-frames" to allow the filter to adjust throughout the length of the clip as the clip's visual properties change..

Sorry, no idea on the other problem!

[radman2020]

one other issue.

I have all my tracks lined up so I have ripple editing invoked...

but I need to insert a transition between scenes so it doesn't jump. It says it cant do it in ripple editing. If I take it off ripple, everything is off.

I used to be able to do this with my cheap roxio program. It would eat into each clip but would not move them.

am I missing something here?

[MrA]

Being a music video, I would highly recommend just using hard cuts, i.e., no transitions. Only use transitions when the music or mood is changing.

Without seeing what you are working with, it's hard to make a call on that one.

[Clevo]

one other issue.

I have all my tracks lined up so I have ripple editing invoked...

but I need to insert a transition between scenes so it doesn't jump. It says it cant do it in ripple editing. If I take it off ripple, everything is off.

I used to be able to do this with my cheap roxio program. It would eat into each clip but would not move them.

am I missing something here?

Yes...you simply have no room to move all the items to the Left (shorten length of project).

Addinga transition makes the project slightly shorter and when ripple editing is invoked if for example, in your audio/music track there is no room for it to go then you cannot add a transition.

What you can do and it's not the ideal solution is to shorten an audio track from somewhere before where you want to add transition then you only have to re-adjust that section after the ripple has don it's thing.

What I do these days is add two or three colour blocks right at the begining of a project in case later i need to make an adjustment like what you have described

[radman2020]

this is not a transition in a song... it is between a song and dialog..

I can't be cutting the audio track because that puts everything off.

In my other programs...roxio and pinnacle, it just added the transition to the audio tracks as well and blended them... why won't it do that?!?

[Clevo]

this is not a transition in a song... it is between a song and dialog..

I can't be cutting the audio track because that puts everything off.

In my other programs...roxio and pinnacle, it just added the transition to the audio tracks as well and blended them... why won't it do that?!?

I was talking about a transition between two scenes (video). If you have already synced the audio to the vision then adding a transition to the video shortens the project a little, putting all your audio out of sync. If ripple editing is turned on when you add the transition then everything after the point needs to come to the left (towards Zero time code) if there is no room for any of the other tracks to go left with it...VS will alert you that it cannot add the transition.

If I have misinterpreted what you are trying to explain then sorry. I'm not sure what you mean by; transition between a song and dialogue. When I work with music and dialogue they are in separate tracks.