Videostudio crashes

stuartbb · Post by **stuartbb** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:18 am

Hi,
I've been using Videostudio for several years. I'm now using 11+ on Windows XP. All works fine EXCEPT ...

... I have put together a reasonably simple movie, made up of about 5 or 6 video clips. Total duration is only 1 minute.

I then want to add "subtitles", by adding Titles to the text "channel". If I add, say, 4 titles, and then output a movie files (MPEG), it's fine ... but at some limit, as soon as I add one more title, when I select Share and then "Create Output File", it hangs. It never reaches the "Rendering" menu.

All ideas and help will be appreciated !

Regards

Stuart

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:25 am

Questions:

Are all your video clips from the same source and file type. (Right click each video file and look at Properties).

It will help also if you can perhaps give more info as per reading the Thread called: Read this First...

Cheers.

stuartbb · Post by **stuartbb** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:48 am

Hi,
Thanks for your quick reply. There are 4 different video clips, all the same format .. MPEG2. All 4 source files were created as output from VS 11+ ... ie I have a stepped process, to create 4 seperate video files from much larger sources, and then edit the smaller, more manageable 4 clips together.

I'm using an IBM THinkpad T43, XP SP2, 80Gb HD, 2.0 Ghz CPU, lots of memory (forgot how much!).

Project settings are as follows :
PAL (25 fps)
MPEG files
24 bits, 720 x 576, 25 fps
Upper Field First
(DVD-PAL), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 9318 kbps)
Audio data rate: 384 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio, 48 KHz, 2/0(L,R)

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:23 am

Just from reading other threads some people sem to experience problems with Mpeg files. I can;t sem to put a finger on that.

Are your orginal video files per chance DV/AVI format? I guess what I should be really asking is where are you getting the video from?

Your system is capable enough.

I was hoping the video file under the "one more title" on the Title track might be one of those strange video files people seem to download from the internet and I can go...Ah ha!. But it isn't.

So my next question is to try an eliminate other things.

How are you creating the sub-titles? Are you using the title track or using some other process?

This is a mysterious little show stopping problem you have.

stuartbb · Post by **stuartbb** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:49 am

Hi,
Thanks. The original files came from my digital camcorder. But remember, I have already processed the files from them, ie by using VS 11+ to create 4 small clips. So the input to VS 11+ is actually MPEG files that wre output from VS 11+.

Yes, I am simply using the TITLE track ... I insert a standard title from the library, and edit it for my text ,font, etc. I've tried to copy my edited title (fonts etc) into the library, and then use them, but the problem still crops up again.

I have a workaround, but it's crude. I can output a single MPEG file from the 4 clips, with no TITLES, and then input this MPEG file into VS 11+ and add the titles. It's all OK until I make the smallest change to the first stage, and then nothing is "lined up" anymore, so I manually have to move the subtitles, as there is no relationship between them and the MPEG made up of 4 clips.

I've lost hours and hours on this, and with a big party looming, I'd rather figure it out than lean on the workaround.

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:17 am

OK...the title should still work but next time do this...

I'm presuming your camcorder captures in DV/AVI here but edit in that format and you can multi trim the origina video file and save the trims to your library.

Edit the DV/AVI video and when done output to dvd compliant mpeg2 file.

Start a new timeline, add the new finished video mpeg2 files THEN go to share burn.

With titles I find it quicker if I just stop the project where I want the "title" track", click on the title track and create a new one each time by clicking on the preview window where it says "click here". I tend to keep the first one in the library to maintain font and size and positioning but VS11+ seems to default to last used font and size anyway.

We all have diff ways of working but I'm still baffled as to how your problem is occuring.

stuartbb · Post by **stuartbb** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:36 am

Thanks .. that's helpful. I can bear it in mind for my next project ... but I cannot change my total process as a result of this technical problem. I am producing a clip from about 60 hours of raw material. The first phase was to reduce the 60 hours to 1 hour .... the 1 hour being made up of lots of smaller clips ... and thenget thr 1 hour down to 10 minutes.

I've really trusted VS over the years, but it has to be a tool to help me, rather than it limit me to how I work. Hope that makes sense!

I still need to get to the bottom of this problem, or otherwise, I'll have to look at other solutions.

Thanks for your help so far.

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:41 am

stuartbb wrote:Thanks .. that's helpful. I can bear it in mind for my next project ... but I cannot change my total process as a result of this technical problem. I am producing a clip from about 60 hours of raw material. The first phase was to reduce the 60 hours to 1 hour .... the 1 hour being made up of lots of smaller clips ... and thenget thr 1 hour down to 10 minutes.

I've really trusted VS over the years, but it has to be a tool to help me, rather than it limit me to how I work. Hope that makes sense!

I still need to get to the bottom of this problem, or otherwise, I'll have to look at other solutions.

Thanks for your help so far.

I certainly don't envy the job before you.

Is it on minidv tape?

stuartbb · Post by **stuartbb** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:46 am

Hi
Most of the hard work is in the past. I narrowed the 60 hours to 1 hour. The 1 hour is raw material for about 5 different sections of the 10 minute movie .... I more or less have the 10 minutes, and thought I was in the home straight, just needing to add subtitles (multi-lingual audience) and a bit more ... but I'm being tripped up by this software problem.

Hmm .. I thought I could see the light at the end of the tunnel, but it turned out to be a train coming towards me