About Backup for VS10plus?

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n3vpc
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About Backup for VS10plus?

Post by n3vpc »

Good Morning To All,

Recently I had occasion to reflect on a backup for VS10 plus.

While some suggest that to copy over files from C:\application data\Ulead folder, etc. I found that NOT all files will be returned to proper working order and some may be lost all together.

I have Acronis, a system backup, that will backup everything on the hard disk at once but I want to insure that absolutely no files are lost in VS10. Acronis will not guard against damaged or lost files in the sense that, it does not protect or repair
a damaged file it will only mirror or copy what is there regardless of its working order. If your backup has a corrupt file or driver that may be interfering with the proper operation of the program you may be forced to simply re-load and thus lose valuable information. I suppose this goes to the old How Safe Is My Backup? theory.

Is there a foolproof way to insure that all files will be saved in VS10? I, as well as a few members of this list, have worked very hard to teach me some of these principles of working with VS10 and I would not like to lose their or my own work.

Bill
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Post by sjj1805 »

To be honest I could write a book about backing up computers and their contents. The back up method chosen will depend upon a variety of things.

The main things to consider are
1. What is the size of the item to be backed up and so what back up mediums are available.
2. Can the back up be split up into smaller more manageable chunks so that things that can be easily restored from original set up disks etc that can be used but other information be subject to a dedicated back up procedure.
3. Does the back up need to be a one off item - such as just after you have formated a hard drive and re-installed the operating system, drivers, update packs and essential programs.
4. Does the back up need to be an incremental back up such as keeping up to date copies of essential information such as bank account details.

Various back up systems are available and all have their strengths and weaknesses. These include:
The built in Windows Back up system.
Norton Ghost
Acronis True Image
Winzip
Keeping copies on other hard drives such as an external drive or on a networked computer.
Keeping copies on removable media such as
floppy discs
zip discs
CD's
DVD's
USB Memory sticks.

Only you can decide what is best for you. The test is can the data be restored quickly and easily if the entire computer had to be replaced.
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Post by n3vpc »

I guess I did not ask yhis question properly.

What files do I need or how do I backup VS10plus properly?

Bill
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Posts: 14383
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:20 am
operating_system: Windows XP Pro
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 32 Bit
motherboard: Equium P200-178
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ram: 2 GB
Video Card: Intel 945 Express
sound_card: Intel GMA 950
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 1160 GB
Location: Birmingham UK

Post by sjj1805 »

The basic program and extra content will re-install from the original set up discs and so all that is need is for you to back up any personal settings and any enhancements that you have made such as extra transitions or audio/video filters. (example Burger Transitions)

Before I can advise you further I need to know which Operating system you are using as you have yet to complete your Image system specifications.
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Post by n3vpc »

Windows XP/sp2

Thanks for the return
sjj1805
Posts: 14383
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:20 am
operating_system: Windows XP Pro
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 32 Bit
motherboard: Equium P200-178
processor: Intel Pentium Dual-Core Processor T2080
ram: 2 GB
Video Card: Intel 945 Express
sound_card: Intel GMA 950
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 1160 GB
Location: Birmingham UK

Post by sjj1805 »

A suitable back up program for this would be Winzip.
Make sure that VideoStudio is not running because it can affect back ups.
Make sure that [save full path info] also [include sub folders] are both ticked.

Save the following locations:
c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio\10.0
c:\Documents and Settings\Stephen\Application Data\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio\10.0
c:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 10\vft_plug
c:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 10\Vfx_plug

Substitute Stephen with your user name.

In addition you need to save any projects you may be working on including the locations of the original source files - videos - photos - audio.
If you have purchased any extra Smartsound then you need to back up the following directory (For this I would not recommend Winzip but would back up to another hard drive/ DVD Discs as this folder can become quite large)

c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\SmartSound Software Inc

Where possible save 3 back up copies - nothing worse than a corrupt back up!
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Post by n3vpc »

Thankf you for your reply.

I thought WinZip was only for zip files? Have it never used much except to unpack zipped files?

I was planning on just copying your mentioned folders to a New Folder on a separte Hardrive, to be re-copyed back after a fresh installation.

Will this work also?

Bill
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operating_system: Windows XP Pro
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ram: 2 GB
Video Card: Intel 945 Express
sound_card: Intel GMA 950
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 1160 GB
Location: Birmingham UK

Post by sjj1805 »

Winzip is only for zip files - no quite sure here what you don't understand.
A zip file is a method of compressing and packaging a file or number of files.
rather like squeezing your clothes into a suitcase - packing everything as tightly as possible and then "zipping" the case closed. Later you undo the zip and take the clothes back out.

So in other words you grab a bunch of computer files - compress them and at the same time keeping track of where the files were originally located - place them in a wrapper and zip it shut.

You later unzip those files and return them to their original locations.
WIN - windows
ZIP - zipper.
n3vpc
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Post by n3vpc »

Yes Sir,

I understand all of that; the confusion comes back to
using it with, as? Part of Back Up?

Or another words what your trying to advise me is to compress the
files with WinZip and then backup? That's where I am lost.

Incidentally, thank-you for spending so much of your time with me.
It is much appreciated.

Bill
sjj1805
Posts: 14383
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:20 am
operating_system: Windows XP Pro
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 32 Bit
motherboard: Equium P200-178
processor: Intel Pentium Dual-Core Processor T2080
ram: 2 GB
Video Card: Intel 945 Express
sound_card: Intel GMA 950
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 1160 GB
Location: Birmingham UK

Post by sjj1805 »

zip the files so that they are smaller and then save them somewhere - preferably away from the computer - example on a CD.
In fact back ups are best kept in a separate building in case the building itself becomes in some way destroyed.
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