Ulead Crashes When Trying to Render

[RonPaulForPresident]

I'm running Windows XP and trying to render a video that has .wmv and .avi files in it and it gets to 92% complete then Ulead crashes.

It says...

"Ulead VideoStudio has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience."

When I go to the Event Viewer Application log it says:

"Faulting application vstudio.exe, version 10.0.0.0, faulting module mcmpgdec.dll, version 1.1.1.52, fault address 0x0005a9f4.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

How do I fix this?

Thanks.

[Clevo]

Hi,

I suspect it's because of the mixed video file type but to eliminate that from our enquiries we'll need to have a closer look at them.

With the video files in your timeline would you kindly right-click on them and reproduce in a reply the properties?

Once we have this information we could suggest a few fixes.

Your project properties should match your video files too so with mixed video files you are more ikely to encounter problems.

[heinz-oz]

And, in addition to that, if we would know what system you are running it on, we might have a few more pointers also.

http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=8959 gives you an idea about what we need from you. That forum for VS will be likely to give you the answers you seek also, if you care to look for it. We do have a search function also.

Your questions have been asked and answered umpteen times already.

[Ken Berry]

Wmv files are also notoriously difficulty -- and very slow - to render into some other format. As you know, they are highly compressed and meant more as a distribution format, particularly on the internet.

That being said, in addition to what Clevo has already asked, can you confirm that when you say 'render' in this case, you meant your were rendering your project into a DVD-compatible mpeg-2 file ( Share > Create Video File > DVD) and did not mean that you were burning your project directly to disc (Share > Crate Disc) where the rendering would take place as part of the burning process. This often leads to complications, and mixing your formats, particularly when one of them is .wmv, could be the culprit if this is indeed your workflow...

[RonPaulForPresident]

Thanks for the replies, but I actually fixed the problem by simply upgrading to Ulead version 11.

And, in addition to that, if we would know what system you are running it on, we might have a few more pointers also.

What exactly do you mean by "system?" I said my OS was XP in the OP.

That being said, in addition to what Clevo has already asked, can you confirm that when you say 'render' in this case, you meant your were rendering your project into a DVD-compatible mpeg-2 file

What I meant by render was Share > Create File > and then choosing an output optimized for the web. I'm not interested in burning anything to disc.

However, now I'm having another problem with Ulead 11. It appears that most videos will play their sound when I play them in clip format, but once added to the project with music they won't play, and I know I don't have mute on. I am downloading videos from youtube in .flv format and then converting them to .avi .mpg etc. Then trying to mix them in Ulead and I want to be able to toggle the sound off and on, while music plays in the background, but for some reason it won't allow me to play it in project mode, only clip.

Please help.

[lancecarr]

And, in addition to that, if we would know what system you are running it on, we might have a few more pointers also.

What exactly do you mean by "system?" I said my OS was XP in the OP.

Go to your "Profile" button at the top of the screen and fill in all the system specs etc. It makes it easier for us to "see" your system and get an idea of possible causes for problems and fixes.

That being said, in addition to what Clevo has already asked, can you confirm that when you say 'render' in this case, you meant your were rendering your project into a DVD-compatible mpeg-2 file

What I meant by render was Share > Create File > and then choosing an output optimized for the web. I'm not interested in burning anything to disc.

Again, Ken was having to try to guess what you were doing because the info you gave was incomplete.



However, now I'm having another problem with Ulead 11. It appears that most videos will play their sound when I play them in clip format, but once added to the project with music they won't play, and I know I don't have mute on. I am downloading videos from youtube in .flv format and then converting them to .avi .mpg etc. Then trying to mix them in Ulead and I want to be able to toggle the sound off and on, while music plays in the background, but for some reason it won't allow me to play it in project mode, only clip.

Please help.[/quote]

Because you are mixing file types on the timeline you are asking for trouble especially when you are talking about very compressed files like flv, mpeg and even avi because the avi's are most likely MPG4 and again...very compressed. You would be better served by converting all your files to one type prior to adding them to the project then editing and rendering.

[RonPaulForPresident]

Go to your "Profile" button at the top of the screen

What screen?

Because you are mixing file types on the timeline you are asking for trouble especially when you are talking about very compressed files like flv, mpeg and even avi because the avi's are most likely MPG4 and again...very compressed. You would be better served by converting all your files to one type prior to adding them to the project then editing and rendering.

I converted all the files to .avi and they play in Windows Movie Maker fine. They all play in clip mode on Ulead fine, why won't they play in project mode on Ulead?

[heinz-oz]

Thanks for the replies, but I actually fixed the problem by simply upgrading to Ulead version 11.

And, in addition to that, if we would know what system you are running it on, we might have a few more pointers also.

What exactly do you mean by "system?" I said my OS was XP in the OP.
.......

Great, you are running XP, Is that XP Pro or Home, SP1 or SP2? Even then we do not know what you are running it on

Glad you solved the problem. Good luck with it.

[lancecarr]

What screen?
Actually the screen you are looking at right now provided you are logged in to the forum. Just scroll to the very top and you will see a group of features such as FAQ, Search, Memberlist etc. One of them says, "Profile." Click that one and then fill out the info so we can immediately see what your setup is in the future.

You say you converted your files to AVI. I appreciate you providing that info however it really means nothing. There are many file types that have the extension .avi ; mpeg4, DV AVI, Divx, Xvid etc. Right click on them in VS and post the properties here. Without this info it is hard to tell why you are unable to play them in project view. It would also be helpful if you provided the Project Properties of you current project.

[RonPaulForPresident]

Click that one and then fill out the info so we can immediately see what your setup is in the future.

Done.

You say you converted your files to AVI. I appreciate you providing that info however it really means nothing. There are many file types that have the extension .avi ; mpeg4, DV AVI, Divx, Xvid etc. Right click on them in VS and post the properties here. Without this info it is hard to tell why you are unable to play them in project view.

It would also be helpful if you provided the Project Properties of you current project.

[lancecarr]

I know the questions keep coming but we are trying to really nail down the problem!
From the thread, at one point, you mentioned you were using flv files amongst others...Right?
What you seemed to have done is taken very highly compressed files and converted them to even more compressed files in the form of Divx 6.7.

The original suggestion was to convert to a common file type and you did that, however I erred in assuming! What I meant was to convert them to a common file type that would be more suitable for editing. That would be MPEG or DV AVI. Divx, MPEG4, Xvid are all extrememly highly compressed file formats and most importantly they are designed for distribution, not editing. The means by which they are compressed is by actually discarding data to achieve the smaller size. That introduces problems in editing.

So the remaining problem is that the sound will not play in Project mode right?

[RonPaulForPresident]

From the thread, at one point, you mentioned you were using flv files amongst others...Right?

Right.

So the remaining problem is that the sound will not play in Project mode right?

Yes.

[lancecarr]

Ok well at least we all know exactly where we are...where are we?
Anyway I can think of no logical reason why the clips would play in clip mode (they do don't they) with sound and not in the project mode. One possibility is that in project mode the program is having to throw the whole thing together on the fly and because the highly compressed files rely on huge processing power in themselves VS is choking on them. This may be exacerbated by the fact that you project properties do not match you content.

At this point I can only offer observations.
Editing highly compressed media such as DivX, Xvid, MPEG4 and to a much lesser degree MPEG2 is consistently problematic. Not just with VS but just about any consumer level NLE. The purpose of such high compression is distribution, not editing and there lies the problem. In order to achieve such small file sizes a great deal of information has been discarded.
My only suggestion at this point would be to go back, convert all your original assets to an editing friendly format, DV AVI would be ideal, MPEG2 my second choice.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help, maybe someone else will come on and offer something new and exciting!
Good luck.

[RonPaulForPresident]

Ok well at least we all know exactly where we are...where are we?
Anyway I can think of no logical reason why the clips would play in clip mode (they do don't they) with sound and not in the project mode. One possibility is that in project mode the program is having to throw the whole thing together on the fly and because the highly compressed files rely on huge processing power in themselves VS is choking on them. This may be exacerbated by the fact that you project properties do not match you content.

At this point I can only offer observations.
Editing highly compressed media such as DivX, Xvid, MPEG4 and to a much lesser degree MPEG2 is consistently problematic. Not just with VS but just about any consumer level NLE. The purpose of such high compression is distribution, not editing and there lies the problem. In order to achieve such small file sizes a great deal of information has been discarded.
My only suggestion at this point would be to go back, convert all your original assets to an editing friendly format, DV AVI would be ideal, MPEG2 my second choice.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help, maybe someone else will come on and offer something new and exciting!
Good luck.

The thing that baffles me is that it will play in Windows Movie Maker just fine under the same compression.

That being said, what do you suggest I use to download youtube videos and re-edit them in Ulead?

[lancecarr]

I have no idea, this is an area that I am not familiar with aside from the basics.
I would start a new thread and head it something like "How to deal with flv files." Maybe it will attract someone else who is editing youTube files.
Sorry I couldn't crack this one for you!