Help! Finished project, produced ISO but Video jerky

[Clevo]

Hi Clevo,

Yep I'll be making multiple copies. It's a wedding video so I guess 5 or more. I understood that outputting the video to a file was the right thing to do. What would you suggest?

Cheers.

TGG.

If it's only 5 or so copies.

Follow the work flow suggestions.

When you get to the burn stage and after menu creation you're asked how many copies you want to do. Enter x.

When the first one is rendered and burnt...you'll be prompted to inset a new blank DVD. It won;t go through the whole rendering again it will just burn as if doing a disc copy from an .iso.

I find the process a whole lot quicker and I don;t have to muck around with an iso file.

[Ken Berry]

Clevo -- your procedure might be fine if you know in advance exactly how many copies you are going to make. But what happens if, three weeks or a month or longer, later you decide you want to make a new set of copies. I am afraid I agree with gasgranny's approach in this.

I almost invariably take her approach with all my projects, though I produce a DVD folder because that is easier to preview than an ISO file, I find. The preview ability means I can go back and correct things if something is wrong -- rather like burning first to an RW disc: saves on wasting DVD blanks. But the idea is much the same.

However, gasgranny, I was struck by your comment:

I left it rendering last night before I went to bed so I don't know what the outcome is yet

This makes me think that it may be your workflow which is causing you grief. I get the impression that after you finish editing, you jump straight to the burning module (Share > Create Disc). The rendering then occurs as part of an already complex process, namely creating menus and burning. Various things can go wrong as it is highly demanding of computer resources, and of course the process can be extra long.

Instead, we recommend that, after editing, your first convert your project into a DVD compatible mpeg-2 file (Share > Create Video File > DVD). The conversion will still take a while, but doing this as a separate step places less demand on your computer resources.

Once you have your mpeg-2, save your project, and you then open a new one. Don't worry about a name for it -- the objective is just to clear the timeline.

Then you go to Share > Create Disc, insert your new mpeg-2 into the burning timeline, make your menu and burn. Also, make sure 'do not convert compliant mpeg files' is ticked in the middle of the three icons in the bottom left of the burning screen. You should not have to adjust any of the properties in the burn module. And no conversion (apart from your menus) will occur in this process. For a video the length of yours I would say that the whole process should not take much more than a half hour or 40 minutes.

Incidentally, for a 68 minute project, with a bitrate of 8000 kbps, but using Dolby or mpeg layer 2 audio, it should all just about fit on a single layer DVD.

[Clevo]

True Ken but I always apply the +1 rule. The extra disc goes into my archive and when necessary I just copy the disc in Nero.

[Black Lab]

I read somewhere (I think it was here) that when you copy a disc it is not as forgiving to possible burning errors as a DVD player would be. In other words, you are replicating errors that a DVD player may not be able to handle as well as an original copy. Does that make sense? I wish I could find that post.

[thegasgranny]

Hi Ken,

Thanks for the info

I've had difficulties in the past when it comes to creating the finished movie.

My method now is:

1) Capture
2) Edit
3) Save
4) Exit VS10
5) Open VS10, go straight to Share and insert the VSP project.
6) Create the menu - which often crashes so this time I've left it out.
7) Render, in this case an ISO.

To render the movie takes my machine about 60mins. It was getting late so I left it running. I found this method on the forum a while ago and whilst it works in terms of VS not crashing, the output has been somewhat variable.

Thanks again for your advice.

TGG.

[lancecarr]

Blacklab,
The post I think you are referring to was by Heinz-oz. The point he was making was that if you burn a spare DVD and keep it as a "master" your master will invariably have errors on it from the burn process. These errors mean nothing on playback. However if you then copy the master to create more copies then the new copies will have the original errors from the burn plus new ones from the next burn and so on.
His solution as I recall was to create iso files and keep them on removable hard drives

[Black Lab]

You're right Lance, that's the one.

[Black Lab]

Hi Ken,

Thanks for the info

I've had difficulties in the past when it comes to creating the finished movie.

My method now is:

1) Capture
2) Edit
3) Save
4) Exit VS10
5) Open VS10, go straight to Share and insert the VSP project.
6) Create the menu - which often crashes so this time I've left it out.
7) Render, in this case an ISO.

To render the movie takes my machine about 60mins. It was getting late so I left it running. I found this method on the forum a while ago and whilst it works in terms of VS not crashing, the output has been somewhat variable.

Thanks again for your advice.

TGG.

You don't have to exit VS10, just choose File > New Project to clear the timeline.

[thegasgranny]

Right, the story so far.... (sounds like the beginning of one of my movies )

I've just burnt last nights render to a DVD +RW disk at 2x to try it on my DVD player, which incidentally is only 3 weeks old!

Guess what, the picture is still jerky, but only in parts (no different to before) ie it'll be fine for 20 seconds then jerky for 10. This is after I changed the project settings and render settings to be the same (see previous post)

I'm just in the process of following Kens advice about creating a video file which has been running now for 30mins and I expect it to be about another 45.

I was concerned there may have been frames dropped during the capture, but after viewing the AVI files, they look nice and consistent, with no jerkiness.

So I guess I'll have to stay up late (again) to find out whether the current job produces a good MPEG file.

If this doesn't work, I don't know what I'm going to do

Anyone any further advice?

Many thanks

TGG.

[thegasgranny]

Just a big thanks to everyone that chipped on with my thread!

I did as Ken suggested (output to a MPEG file then new project create disk - this time I chose create DVD folders) and I just had a quick look this morning before I left for work and hey presto, everything looks fine - or the clip I saw was

Thank you very much everyone.

TGG.