Remove Time Code

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luis_c274

Remove Time Code

Post by luis_c274 »

Hello.
I want to remove the time code that leaves in the video and cannot. Since one becomes?
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Thanks.
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Post by Ron P. »

Luis,

First please resize your images before posting them. ImageShack provides for sizes that are used to post in web forums. To see a larger image, the viewers can click on the image.

What is the source of your video? VS does not burn the date/time stamp into the video. The Display DV Timecode... does only that, displays it in the preview window, but does not burn it into the video itself. So viewing it with a stand-alone or software DVD player, the date/time stamp will not be there.

If the date/time stamp is burned into the video, then you will need to use an effect like blurring, to obscure it. There are such programs available, one being Moving Parts , by StageTools.

In our Video Products Tutorials section, you will find a tutorial by Steve entitled Number Plate Blur.

Then lastly Corel/Ulead offers a program called Video Graphics Lab. Video Graphics Lab, contains 2 programs/utilities for video editing, Video Paint (rotoscoping), and CG Infintiy (Vector Graphics). I applogize for not being able to provide a link to Ulead's Video Graphic's Lab, there website is running extremely slow right now, and I can not get to that specific page. Just go to http://www.ulead.com, and look for it. I will advise that using Video Paint to do this, will require you to paint each frame. Very, very time consuming.
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Post by luis_c274 »

Thank you very much by the answer. -
Indeed that is my doubt. The time code that leaves is not even the same one of which of preview.
The format is mpeg2. -
The code of time not this patch to the video since with other reproducers it is not possible to be seen. -
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Post by skier-hughes »

Analogue video recorders and camcorders had the option to write the time etc to the tape when the video was being recorded. There is nothing you can do except following Ron's suggestions as it is actually recorded to the tape picture.
Digital cams now record this data as metadata, on a portion of the tape which the video picture is not on.
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Remove Date and Time

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I am having the same problem. When I bring video in to Ulead Video Studio 11 Plus it puts a date and time over the video. And it DOES burn into the final video output. Very annoying! Blurring the image is no solution, but it's a good joke, eh? What kind of a fix is that? When I input the same raw video into another program such as Pinnacle Studio or Adobe Premiere, no date and time stamps appear on the video. This is a serious problem with Ulead Video Studio 11 software. It needs to be fixed. It makes this product totally unacceptable. If Ulead cannot come up with a fix I will demand my money back for an unusable product. :( :( :(

If you reply to this post please keep in mind that other programs do not show the date and time on the video for the exact same files. This problem does NOT appear when using other video programs with the same files. This is a problem with the Ulead software and it is unacceptable.
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Post by Ken Berry »

I seem to recall someone else having this problem a couple of months ago but do not have time at the moment to do a search for it. As I recall, that user specifically had a Sony digital video camera -- though I don't recall what model or type -- and found that there was a setting within the camera's own menu which needed to switched off. Is there anything in your camera manual which looks as though it might be relevant to this?

I know this doesn't address the question of why only VS11 appears to pick up the date and process it. And I realise my comments are very vague, though it is the best I can do for the moment. But I am afraid that this is not a widespread problem. In fact, the usual query here is just the opposite to yours: "How do I embed the date and time stamp from a digitial video camera into my final DVD?"
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Post by sjj1805 »

I have a Sony TRV255E camcorder.
On playback you turn the time/date on or off as follows:

1 Slide the POWER switch repeatedly to
select the PLAY/EDIT mode.
2 Press MENU during playback or
playback pause.
3 Turn the SEL/PUSH EXEC dial to
select (OTHERS), then press the
dial.
4 Turn the SEL/PUSH EXEC dial to
select [DATA CODE], then press the
dial.
5 Turn the SEL/PUSH EXEC dial to
select the [DATE/TIME] or [CAM
DATA], then press the dial.
6 Press MENU.
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Post by tetralite »

I found it! This is a Sony DCR-DVD205. It has a touch screen for accessing the settings. Select "P-Menu" and select "Setup", then select "Time/Langu." then scroll up one line to "Sub-T Date", select it and then select "Off" and back out of the menu.

It is rather strange that other video players and video software do not care about this setting and the date and time do not show up. Only Ulead VS11 is affected -- don't know about prior versions such as VS10.

From now on I will make sure that setting is off, but we have about 25 mini DVDs that were filled with the setting turned on. This date and time doesn't even show up on the camera when played back! I will have to process these files into our final videos either by using another program or perhaps I can re-encode the .mpg files in another program and hopefully drop the visible date and time stamp that way. I will give it a try, but for these files I've already shot I will probably just use Pinnacle or Adobe software.
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Post by Clevo »

Just a thought.


Would it be worth just using the cropping filter? If you shot in 4:3 you could with some trial and error turn it into a pseudo 16:9 (letterboxed, pick and pan).
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Post by tetralite »

Clevo wrote:Just a thought.


Would it be worth just using the cropping filter? If you shot in 4:3 you could with some trial and error turn it into a pseudo 16:9 (letterboxed, pick and pan).
Take a look at the picture in the first post of this topic and you will notice how close to the center of the picture the date and time are. That is roughly the same placement as on my videos (except mine are 16:9), so to crop it out would take way too much of the picture away. Even if the overlaid date and time were right on the edge of the frame, I personally would still not want to have to resort to cropping the frame size of all this footage that was shot with the intent of using the complete frame.

THE SOLUTION:
Since my last post I have tried re-encoding one of the original MPEG2 files by taking it into Pinnacle Studio and simply re-saving the file as a new MPEG2 file. The date and time in the video is eliminated by doing this and when I take the new file into Ulead VS the date and time overlay is gone. Problem solved! So any files I need to work on with Ulead will be first re-saved with Pinnacle. Since these two programs have different features and I want to use some of both, I will re-encode only the files I need to in order to work on them with VS11 when required and Pinnacle otherwise.

But the REAL solution from now on is to make sure that the camera setting for "SUB-T DATE" is set to "Off" on the DCR-DVD205 camera. I'm sure the other Sony DCR-DVDxxx series cameras have the same or similar setting, and perhaps some other models do too.
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Post by nlimonge »

I just upgrade my UVS and when I recovered a project created with UVS10, it came with time and date, like the first post. I really tried to remove it but I couldn't. I don't know if I didn't understand very well, but I see that for now there's no solution for this inconvenient problem. Is it true? :cry:
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nlimonge wrote:I just upgrade my UVS and when I recovered a project created with UVS10, it came with time and date, like the first post. I really tried to remove it but I couldn't. I don't know if I didn't understand very well, but I see that for now there's no solution for this inconvenient problem. Is it true? :cry:
I don't know if there is another way to do it, but (assuming this is the same problem) my solution is given in my post just before your post, that is take your MPEG file into another program that can re-encode the file (take the original MPEG file and re-save it to a new MPEG file). Of course, this means you need another program. I used Pinnacle Studio and it drops the date and time from the video. Then you can take it back into UVS if you want.

It would be great if UVS was updated to fix this problem since other studio-type programs are not affected. Of course none of this is a problem if you can set your camera to not produce the subtitled (it is saved as a subtitle) date and time stamp in the first place, but that doesn't help if you have already shot your video with the setting turned on.

Perhaps there is a way to locate and remove the subtitle track that contains the date and time that is not meant to be visible? I don't know yet!

From what I've seen on this forum so far, this problem is only associated with Sony cameras.
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Post by heinz-oz »

If your camera is set up to display the time stamp of your clips when played from the camera, it's only natural, not a problem IMHO, that a video captured from that camera also displays it. After all, that's what you instructed your camera to do. Setting this option in the camera to "OFF" will eliminate this "problem".

My Panasonic GS 400 has this feature also and I use it from time to time to embed a representation of the date the footage was taken into my captured clips. If my capture program then decided to ignore my cam settings and not show the time stamp, that would be a problem to me.

In other words: If Ulead/Corel fixed this PROBLEM for you it would create one for me and countless others, I'm sure.

All it takes is, for you, to turn off the time stamp display on your camera, and there would not be a problem for anyone :roll: [/b]
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Post by heinz-oz »

tetralite wrote:
nlimonge wrote:I just upgrade my UVS and when I recovered a project created with UVS10, it came with time and date, like the first post. I really tried to remove it but I couldn't. I don't know if I didn't understand very well, but I see that for now there's no solution for this inconvenient problem. Is it true? :cry:
I don't know if there is another way to do it, but (assuming this is the same problem) my solution is given in my post just before your post, that is take your MPEG file into another program that can re-encode the file (take the original MPEG file and re-save it to a new MPEG file). Of course, this means you need another program. I used Pinnacle Studio and it drops the date and time from the video. Then you can take it back into UVS if you want.

It would be great if UVS was updated to fix this problem since other studio-type programs are not affected. Of course none of this is a problem if you can set your camera to not produce the subtitled (it is saved as a subtitle) date and time stamp in the first place, but that doesn't help if you have already shot your video with the setting turned on.

Perhaps there is a way to locate and remove the subtitle track that contains the date and time that is not meant to be visible? I don't know yet!

From what I've seen on this forum so far, this problem is only associated with Sony cameras.
All DV cameras, as far as I know, record the time stamp with the video and store it but don't display it unless instructed to do so. I have never seen a time stamp permanently embedded into the video with digital cameras. You can turn the display On/Off at any time. With old analog cameras this was different.

If you capture your video to the PC with this DV cam feature turned on, the captured clips do display the time code permanently. This happens at capture.
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Post by tetralite »

Well, there is a problem with UVS when using some Sony cameras if you don't turn off the "SUB-T DATE" in the camera settings. It is actually a subtitle in the Sony-created file -- that's what "SUB-T" stands for. With this feature turned on, UVS will show a date and time on your video when imported and when burned. In other programs (Pinnacle Studio, Premiere, etc.) this does not happen and the video does not show the date and time when importing the same file. If you bring the file into another program and re-save it you can then bring it into UVS and the date and time are gone. That is how I am fixing my files that were created with the SUB-T DATE feature enabled (before I figured out how to turn it off) so I can further manipulate them in UVS without the date and time showing. I would guess that any program that allows you to access and delete any subtitles would also do the trick.

This subtitled date and time from a Sony (of the Sony models that have this feature, that is) is different than other camera's settings that purposefully place the date and time directly onto your video. One feature of my Hitachi that I really like is that you cannot put the date and time onto the video. The feature doesn't exist! I like that because I don't ever want to make a video that has the date and time on the picture. A date/time stamp is, however, recorded in the file, but not for display on the video.

For UVS with a Sony just turn off the "Sub-T Date" feature. With other cameras disable the date and time display. If you already recorded on a Sony the solution is to use another program to take out the date/time subtitle.

The Sony Sub-T Date is particularly annoying because of it's placement on the screen (see the picture in the initial post in this thread).
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