Trouble "sharing" rendering to DVD file please hel

rogunfilm · Post by **rogunfilm** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:59 pm

Hi I am using Ulead Video Studio 11 and have put together two projects on it. Everything is working fine and I have been exporting or "sharing" as Ulead calls it, to WMV files just to keep for reference. For this it has been working perfectly.

So yesterday I attempted to turn one of the projects into a DVD to give to someone who had worked on it and I was also anticipating seeing the better quality render of the project. I went through the Create Disc menu and worked out my video menu and title options etc. Then when I went to burn the DVD, the timelines come up showing the progress of the operation, however it kept getting stuck at the 3% mark forever on the 'preparing titles'. I've tried it about 7 times now, even going to sleep twice and letting go for like 6 hours and its not progressing past the 3% mark. I tried different options and even just tried to create a dvd image without the burn and it still keeps getting stuck.

Next I attempted to just create the DVD files from the 'share' menu without using 'create disc' and the same thing happens, it just get stuck right away. The video is only 55 seconds long so this should not be happening.

Here are my stats..

Windows XP media center 2002 service pack 2
Intel Core 2 CPU T7200@2.00GHz
2.00 GHz, 2.00 GB of RAM

Hardrive is 60 GIG with a ton of room left because I keep most of my storage on external drives.

I need to get this DVD to someone who is flying out tomorrow so I'm hoping this is a common problem with an easy fix, or is there a work around??

Thanks in advance

rogunfilm · Post by **rogunfilm** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:08 pm

Here is more info regarding the project

size 1.4 mb
time 1:02:22
edit file format mpeg

NTSC drop frame (29.97 fps)
MPEG files
24 bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Lower Field First
(DVD-NTSC), 4:3

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:29 pm

Can you tell us where the original video came from, how it was captured and what properties is has, please?

rogunfilm · Post by **rogunfilm** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:35 am

I was captured under the 'capture' menu through firewire and I believe it was called 'avc complient device' or something. It was the brand new lowest end jvc dvcamera with the square lcd on the back of the camera (bought it a few hours after best buy introduced the model). I returned it already to the store because of a hot pixel so I cannot plug it in again to see what my computer/corel recognizes it as. Would this affect the output?? Like I said the editing went very smoothly as did the rendering of WMV files so I would imagine everything captured just fine. The raw video files taken were named uvs071001-002-vol-16 etc etc. and are identified as 'movie clips'.

Hope this helps.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:18 am

You need to go back a step to the stage BEFORE you created WMV files.
Now create DVD compliant MPEG2 files (you did save the project didn't you and have the original files in their original locations?)
Now you use those MPEG2 files in the authoring stage rather than your present WMV files.

Please see:
From Camcorder to DVD with Video Studio

rogunfilm · Post by **rogunfilm** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:38 am

OK thank you I will try that (if I'm not already doing that). However, I AM (caps for emphasis not shouting.) trying to 'create disc' from the vsp project files (full quality original material like you said, not the low quality wmv) BUT I may possibly be running into a problem because my dvd menu has a background animation which i had rendered into wmv. I will try to 'create disc' using the full quality project files for not only the movie but also for the 'top menu' animation. I'll see if that works and check back here tomorrow. Thanks.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:30 am

And if you continue to have trouble, then you might want to follow our recommended procedure and NOT use the project files in the burning module. Instead, after finishing the editing, convert the project into a DVD compatible mpeg-2 (Share > Create Video File > DVD) and use THAT in the burning module instead.

rogunfilm · Post by **rogunfilm** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:59 am

Getting Closer.
Thanks.
So here is where I'm at now. I am still not able to render andy of the share>create video file>dvd . for whatever reason it just refuses to render those NTSC DVD files. I know I need to address that eventually but I almost found a work around.
As suggested, I rendered both my 1minute film and my short video background for the dvd menu to AVI files. These work well and looked good so I figured let me just burn the DVD off these AVIs.
So I put everything together: the top menu with the short AVI along with a music snippit imported on the edit screen AND then of course the film.
For the first time, the Burning stage went through quickly and no problems. I load the DVDR- into my tv's dvd player and voila! the menu works perfectly along with the background music. Then I press play to seem my movie. It also comes up perfectly, looks great, BUT No Sound! I tried multiple dvd players and the same thing. This is where I'm at and I'm going to search this board for the sound issue now. Thanks.

rogunfilm · Post by **rogunfilm** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:09 am

Just an FYI, the sound playing on the rendered AVI is fine. Thanks

rogunfilm · Post by **rogunfilm** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:28 pm

Just for kicks tried a few more times to render dvd mpegs. For some reason it will not let me create any of the DVD MPEG compatible files that both Ken and SSJ mentioned. Its almost feels like I have a demo/trial version or something that just refuses to render those types of files. Very strange.

Like I said, At Least I have a decent quality AVI for a crunch and maybe it will let me rerender that into an DVD MPEG if I start a new project Or if I run it through some other editing program (hopefully not the latter because I don't want to go out and buy more software).

I work extensivilly with audio editing software so usually I am good with file conversions, audio editing, and figuring out work arounds for incompatible formats. I'm kicking myself for not being able to figure this out but video editing is new to me.

Any more suggestions?

Post by **Ken Berry** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:24 pm

I am not sure if you read Steve's suggestion correctly, or if we are not reading your own workflow correctly, but what we are suggesting is forget you ever created WMV files. Forget they are on your computer. Instead, go back to the original DV/AVI files you captured from your camera. Then with those files in the timeline -- and most definitely NOT the WMV files you converted them into -- go to Share > Create Video File > DVD to produce your DVD compatible mpeg-2.

Conversion from DV to mpeg-2 is an absolutely rock-standard, central facet of the Video Studio workflow. It is NOT disabled in any trial or other version of Video Studio. On the other hand, conversion from WMV to mpeg-2 could not really be described as an everyday occurrence. WMV is a highly compressed proprietary format devised by Microsoft, and converting it often takes users hours if it can be achieved at all.

rogunfilm · Post by **rogunfilm** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:32 pm

Well Ken you're right I may not have described my workflow correctly. I understand the WMVs had nothing to do with my problem. I was just letting you know that I had created them with no problems so it seemed that my program was running correctly. So forget I even mentioned WMVs

I did finally get burning the dvds. Thanks to all the suggestions that got me thinking along the right path. What I did was render my project to AVI (I have to do this because the program will not let me convert the project directly to dvd mpeg, I still don't know why but that is a moot point I guess). This was my first sigh of relief because I knew from there worse case scenario I could work with that file maybe at a friends house to burn.

Then to step two. And as you mentioned sometimes people have a problem burning a dvd directly from the project file. Thus I at this point (around the time i wrote the previous post) used the AVI in my disc creator program. I would get sound in the preview but not the finalized disc so that got me thinking to go back and split the audio off the full avi (creating a whole new project with the single avi being the only video clip in the editor).

Today, on a whim I went to create (share tab) the dvd mpeg from this audio split file (I may not have even needed to do the split, maybe it would have rendered/shared from just the simple AVI, basically a file conversion. Regardless, it was successful, the program was finally able to make a dvd ntsc mpeg from this 'new' project. Then from there I was able to go into disc creator with the proper MPEG dvd files. It worked perfectly. Even with a complicated menu.

Bottom line is that my program will NOT make a DVD MPEG directly from the project. Mysterious, but then again it looks like different people end up with different quirks on their end. But it will do it fine if I take the extra step to change the project into an AVI first. THEN converting the AVI to the DVD MPEG.

Thanks for all your help.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:51 pm

then again it looks like different people end up with different quirks on their end

That may be the case -- but you are about the first person I have heard of in my more than 5 years on this board who has difficulty with any version of VS converting a DV project into an mpeg-2. After all, the precise conversion is a very central, essential element of the program. Your inability to do so thus could hardly be described as a 'quirk'!!!

My own tendency in your place -- since I am retired and have time on my hands -- would be to look for a suspect in one of the editing steps I have taken with the DV project in the timeline. After all, you can convert your new AVI to mpeg-2... I would thus remove, say, a transition (particularly if I had used transitions known to cause difficulties such as the Album one); then I would try rendering to mpeg-2 again. If there was still difficulties, I would remove filters and try rendering again. And so on.

Or you could start again and simply put your unedited DVs in the timeline and try rendering to mpeg-2. If that works, then you will definitely know that it was one or more of your editing steps which is causing the problem...