RANT: Is AVCHD ever going to be recognized in VS11?

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SFVet-A553

RANT: Is AVCHD ever going to be recognized in VS11?

Post by SFVet-A553 »

I am sick of the poor quality of my HD videos after they are converted to M2t format.

Are you guys ever going to update this products so that we can edit the raw .mts files and not have to use some crappy converter PRIOR to using VS.

I actually went and bought Pinnacle Studio 11 just so I could edit and render my RAW .mts files right from the program. Only problem is, I like VS so much more than Studio 11. It has better motion menus and title editing and sound editing and doesn't make you pay extra for every little thing you want to do that should be included in the program.

GET OFF YOUR BUTS AND GET THIS DONE! PEOPLE ARE USING HD CAMERAS MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY!

Thanks, that is all....
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Post by etech6355 »

I cannot speak for ulead, but maybe the long wait for a patch is a good thing, after all we want it to work.
If the patch for VS11+ is anything similar or as good as the MF6+ patch#2 then you will be happy.
If they introduce an add-on for VS11+ like they did for MF6+ to burn many hd formats and create avchd disks then great.

I don't know what ulead intentions are for VS11+ but they did pull through for MF6+ because MF6+ with Patch# 2 installed you can insert your raw files directly and then convert them to hd-mpeg2 & create HD-DVD's. You can also trim the avchd.m2t or avchd.m2ts file & fast export it if I remember correctly. The file conversions that MF6+ performs from H264 to Hd-Mpeg2 are excellent. The file conversions going from HD-Mpeg2 source videos to AVCHD/H264 format to create AVCHD Disks are excellent. The H264 encodes that ulead performs for the given bit-rates results in very high quality H264 video. Definitely nice.
GET OFF YOUR BUTS AND GET THIS DONE! PEOPLE ARE USING HD CAMERAS MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY!
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Post by Bignosetw »

Thanks for the rant, we hear you :)

The HD Pack for DVD MovieFactory 6 that has just been released, addresses the outstanding AVCHD issues. Users of VideoStudio can expect similar good news within the next month or so.

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Post by Clevo »

Bignosetw wrote:Thanks for the rant, we hear you :)

The HD Pack for DVD MovieFactory 6 that has just been released, addresses the outstanding AVCHD issues. Users of VideoStudio can expect similar good news within the next month or so.

Tobie Openshaw
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I trust the patch to go through some vigarous testing before release.

I have no problems with VS11+ but I work with MiniDV tapes.

:)
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Post by SFVet-A553 »

I saw the page for MF6, but it just says Sony and Cannon camcorder capture. What about cameras like I have, the Panasonic HDC-SD1 that records to HCSD Media. Can you import the video from the card or is it like Pinnacle where you copy to the HDD and then open up the files?

I would like to see the files be pulled directly into the software so that they aren't converted to anything and then are rendered as a DVD folder or DivX file.

Does MF6 allow you to render to a different format or is it only HD to HD / SD to SD? I want to be sure that I can record with my HD camera and then dumb down to SD for placement on DVDs.

I mostly do HS Football games and there are usually about 120-150 individual clips per project, can MF6 handle that many as well? I know VS11 only allows 90 at a time...

Any help is appreciated.
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Post by Black Lab »

I mostly do HS Football games and there are usually about 120-150 individual clips per project, can MF6 handle that many as well? I know VS11 only allows 90 at a time...
Where did you get the idea that VS only allows 90 clips per project?
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Post by DLA »

Where did you get the idea that VS only allows 90 clips per project?
Yeah, 90, where ? Just to convince myself, I re-opened my last project and confirmed that it had 104 clips. I am pretty sure I did a project with close to 150 once. So long for the 90 limit.
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Post by etech6355 »

I saw the page for MF6, but it just says Sony and Cannon camcorder capture. What about cameras like I have, the Panasonic HDC-SD1 that records to HCSD Media. Can you import the video from the card or is it like Pinnacle where you copy to the HDD and then open up the files?
MF6 does both, imports from the card and also direct insertion of the m2ts h264 video files. The difference being one method you can perform editing while the direct insertion method editing may be limited. This depends on how the panasonic creates the h264 videos.
Either way you can convert these to dvd format and burn a dvd.
Not sure why you would use Divx, your videos are already in h264 highly compressed format.
Personnally I think your better off using WMV at standard resolutions for file distribute for computer playback via web or email. The WMV standard resolution still looks great, you can keep the interlaced fielding in the WMV file, and all Windows Media players decode these standard WMV's so they playback correctly.

You can email me a small test file to see if it loads into MF6+. The videos should be located on the SD stick in the streams folders.
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90 clips...

Post by SFVet-A553 »

Well, when I attempt to import all of my files, it tells me in no uncertain terms that "there are too many files selected".

Maybe it is a limitation of how many you can import vs how many you can have in a project?
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Post by etech6355 »

SFVet-A553,
Can you figure this out and let us know.
Most users don't import that many videos, simply to many to work with for me.
I don't remember ever having over 10videos loaded on the timeline in any projects I've done. Going over 99 videos seems like to many videos to manage in one project.
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Post by SFVet-A553 »

Well, when they are 10-15 seconds each it really isn't that many.

Nero has no problems accomodating 100+, neither does Pinnacle Studio 11.1.1.

I can bring in the 40 or so at a time, create a file and do the same thing for each quarter and then create a movie from those 4 files, but then the quality of the video suffers immensely.

I prefer to only have to render 1 time vs 5 to get a DVD made. Not only is it way too time consuming but like I said the video quality really suffers.
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Post by etech6355 »

Using VS10+ I can "Insert" (not import), about 160 small 10 seconds clips (mpeg2 files).
I know your importing the small clips using the dvd/-vr avchd import dvd feature.
The program should let you import the first 90 clips, then going back into the import dvd/avchd disk let you import the remaining clips.

When they release the patch you should be able to "Insert" the small clips into the timeline directly which will save you time. Actually I think you will be able to copy them directly from the media stick or harddisk/mini-dvd directly into the timeline although they will be still be in the transport stream wrapper when using this method.

I don't have an avchd disk with over 99 small files to test this with but I can insert directly into the timeline over 99 clips using VS10+, so try importing the avchd material twice (in 2 import sessions). First 90, then the rest.
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