Rendering final movie in MovieFactory Plus 6

[AJ72]

Hi guys,
I'm new to Ulead software and I am currently testing the trial versions of both VideoStudio 11 plus and MovieFactory 6 plus. I've been using Sony Vegas 7 and DVD Architect 4 and find this software much different. Too early to say better or worse but definitely different. Anyway, When I make an MPEG render in Vegas then import that MPEG into DVD Architect, DVD Architect would make the movie without rendering the video of the imported MPEG. But when I render an MPEG movie in VideoStudio and import it into MovieFactory, at the disc burning screen MovieFactory tells me that "This action will take some time to render. Continue?" I'm not sure why it's rendering since I checked the "Do not convert compliant MPEG files" box in project settings. Can anyone help. I checked the manual and couldn't find anything about this. I don't want my video recompressed.

P.S. this is standard definition MPEG-2 and the project properties match those which I used to render the MPEG in VideoStudio.

Thanks,
Anthony

[DVDDoug]

P.S. this is standard definition MPEG-2 and the project properties match those which I used to render the MPEG in VideoStudio.

That is strange, since any allowable project settings in Movie Factory should be DVD compliant. (Video Studio is more flexible, and it is possible to create a non-compaliantl MPEG.).

Could it be just the audio that's getting re-rendered?

What are the project settings?

Oh, what are the properties of your original files? I've had MPEG files apparently "go bad" during the editing process. If you are editing MPEGs, you might want to stick with Vegas for editing, if it works better for you.

[AJ72]

Thanks Doug,
I'm really starting to like VideoStudio more than Vegas and at 1/3 the price it even does a couple of things better than Vegas. Anyway I don't think the problem is with VideoStudio but rather with MovieFactory because when I import the same MPEG rendered with VideoStudio into DVD Architect 4.0 I don't get any messages regarding re-rendering. I am rendering DVD NTSC 4:3 MPEG-2, lower field first, variable bitrate 8000 with 224kbps AC3 Audio from within VideoStudio 11. Then I import that same MPEG into MovieFactory 6 and edit the project settings to match the rendered MPEG. But when I get the burn movie segment I get the warning that says "This action will take some time to render. Continue?" Your suggestion about MovieFactory wanting to render the audio only would have made sense if I wasn't rendering the MPEG with dolby digital audio. Does anybody else get that error? I hope I'm doing something wrong that I can fix because after only 5 days with Ulead software I'm really starting to like it and I think I'm going to purchase it soon. Plus it rendered the same MPEG 2 1/2 times faster than Vegas did with the same settings and you know what they say "time is money". Thanks.

Anthony

[etech6355]

If the mpeg2 video file is dvd compliant and you have the do not convert checked then click on OK.
That box always shows up even when burning dvd complaint video files.

You will know if the video is being re-encoded because it will say converting title 1 of 1 etc.

Buy to do a fast test at the beginning (page 1) uncheck create dvd menu and in the burning stage uncheck to burn a dvd. Click on the downarrow to display additional burning parameters and check ON create dvd folder.
As soon as you click on burn the program should immediately say "Video/Audio Multiplexing".

Somewhat hard to understand why you would go from an expensive authoring package like Vegas & DVD arch to a simple package unless you need to use the smart-render features that ulead has or just for simplicity, or maybe create HD-DVD's for high defintion video.

[AJ72]

Thanks etech6355,
You were right, It went right to Video/Audio Multiplexing. That made me feel good. However, when I check add DVD menu and add a theme with the same MPEG, then it tells me that it's converting Title 1 of 1 at the burn stage. Is my MPEG being recompressed when I add menus and themes? Even when I added themes in DVD Architect, it skipped the rendering stage and went directly to the preparing stage. You got it right, I wan't to start doing HD and Sony is always behind. Vegas can import AVCHD but it can't export it which doesn't make sense. It is not even Vista Compatible yet. It seams that Ulead is right on time with keeping with technology. Anyway, will MovieFactory always convert my movie when I add menus and themes?

Thanks,
AJ

[DVDDoug]

However, when I check add DVD menu and add a theme with the same MPEG, then it tells me that it's converting Title 1 of 1 at the burn stage. Is my MPEG being recompressed when I add menus and themes?

I have a feeling it's just rendering the menus. How long does the rendering take? How does the Movie Factory rendering time compare to the rendering that was done with Video Studio?

Just to give you a benchmark, my video is usually compliant, but my audio needs to be converted to Dolby. On my ~3GHz system, it typically takes 10-15 minutes to render the menu and audio, and to re-multiplex the audio & video. Then it takes another 10-15 minutes to burn.

...and you know what they say "time is money".

Maybe if you are a pro, but not if you are an amateur.* For example, I select two-pass MPEG encoding for better quality, but it takes longer. And, it doesn't take any more of my time, it takes more of the computer's time.

Somewhat hard to understand why you would go from an expensive authoring package like Vegas & DVD arch

Sony now has 3 versions of Vegas+Architect starting at $80 USD.


"Amateur" has the same root word as "amorous". We do it for the love of the hobby, not for money!

[etech6355]

Yes, Dougs correct, it's render the menus.
The verbage is different when it renders the menus versus the video, I can't remember the exact phrasing.