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cyprusx · Post by **cyprusx** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:17 am

i really need help. every time i try and edit my project its really slow ans doesn't respond. is it my system or something else. my specs are

512 ram
celeron 3.2 ghz

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:25 am

It could be any one of a hundred causes. Please give a full run-down of your system, OS, HDD config, icl partitioning, software installed and software running. The most usual causes are too little free RAM because of resident programmes, such as Internet security etc. and inadequate disk space.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:54 am

Please click here -->

so that we can then view your system specifications.

cyprusx · Post by **cyprusx** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:46 pm

done, when im running the program my cpu usage hits 99%

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:42 am

I don't think 512MB of RAM is sufficiently high.
At the time of writing this I made a check of my Task manager.
I have Firefox running (Otherwise I wouldn't be able to write this!) and my email anti spam program Mail Washer pro. Obviously I have an anti virus program running also. Other than that I have no other programs running other than the normal background stuff and the computer is using 421MB of RAM.

If this was your computer then you would only have 91 MB of RAM left and most of that would no doubt be taken up simply by starting up MediaStudio Pro. All this before you have even began to do any rendering.

I would consider bringing your RAM up to at least 1 Gigabyte.

If you use Vista then this becomes even more critical. I just turned on my wife's laptop running Vista Home Premium. There is nothing running other than the default start up programs. Task Manager is showing that the amount of RAM being used is 612 MB

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:00 am

Don't forget, the video adapter is running on shared memory as well. Seriously under powered would be my diagnose.

How much free space do you have on your system disk? That's where I suppose WIN XP is having its swap file located? Because of the lack of RAM, WIN would be making havy use of the swap file, thereby seriously fragmenting the remaining space. 40GB is not all that much to start with and after a typical WIN XP installation plus a few programs one needs to use, half of that is pretty much gone.

troppo · Post by **troppo** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:39 am

it also can depend on the file format you are editing. I find when i edit video clips from my stills camera they are very processor intensive due to the high compression used, (MP4) and so it feels very slow and unresponsive. This is not a fault of the program, even final cut pro on a high spec machine does this.
You might find it easier to convert your high compression files to DV for editing. However, i tried this and the sound didn't convert properly, so I just persevere with the slowness.

cyprusx · Post by **cyprusx** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:52 am

my C drive has 7% free and my D drive has 17% FREE

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:10 am

cyprusx wrote:my C drive has 7% free and my D drive has 17% FREE

Windows will not even let you defrag that drive anymore

A 1 hour DV AVI file is around 13 GB in size. The program needs at least twice that amount for temp files and render. That is close to 40 GB and doesn't take into account the swap file. If your temp files are, as these are by default, living on your system drive and you have a miserly 7% of 40GB left "free" on that one, I'm surprised you get as far as you did.

And the "impressive" 17% free on you second drive don't count for more than around 7 GB either.

If you think you can edit video with that system, think again.

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:12 am

Rule of thumb for hard drives for working with DV AVIs (generous):
1. Temporary file: 30 x project length in hours in Gb
2. Video file: 40 x project length in hours in Gb

If your captured files are, say, 1 hour long, you will need 40 Gb on your video drive plus 30 Gb on the drive(s) where you have parked your temp files. This will allow you the space necessary to preview, create and encode and author to DVD.

Rule of thumb for RAM size:
256 kb plus reserve for on-board graphics (generally 128 kb) for system overheads
512 kb for video projects up to 90 minutes
256 kb for each extra 60 minutes of project size

Compare your set up with mine below:

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:01 am

cyprusx wrote:my C drive has 7% free and my D drive has 17% FREE

This quote is taken from the Microsoft website:

It is recommended that you maintain about 30 percent of any NTFS-formatted disk as free space to ensure that you have sufficient room for effective defragmentation.

Gorf · Post by **Gorf** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:31 am

sjj1805 wrote:This quote is taken from the Microsoft website:
It is recommended that you maintain about 30 percent of any NTFS-formatted disk as free space to ensure that you have sufficient room for effective defragmentation.

That would be great, if their bloody o/s took up less than 70% of the hard drive...

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:35 am

Gorf wrote:
sjj1805 wrote:This quote is taken from the Microsoft website:
It is recommended that you maintain about 30 percent of any NTFS-formatted disk as free space to ensure that you have sufficient room for effective defragmentation.
That would be great, if their bloody o/s took up less than 70% of the hard drive...

troppo · Post by **troppo** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:50 am

Devil I notice you draw attention to your specs. I dont want to split hairs, but how can a P4 also be a Core 2 Duo? Unless you have a frankenstein system with 2 different processors in some unholy mega machine, haha.

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:04 am

Is not the Core 2 family part of the P4 architecture?