I just began operating a new 64 bit processor machine (2 xeon 550's duals, and my Media Studio pro 8 will not run properly. Is there a workaround to get the software to run on a 64 bit machine. I'm a long time user since 2000 and now am about to switch software programs if I continue to have problems. Any comments would be appreciated.
Tom Mullen
Go Pro Video Productions.
www.goprovideo.biz
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Since this is a user-to-user forum, nobody here knows what the future plans are.
There are (or were?) some beta testers who are forum members, but they are required to sign a non-disclosure agreement.
It would appear that Media Studio Pro and DVD Workshop are being left behind. There has been no Vista update for Workshop, and AFAIK, there is no Vista update for MSP either.
There are (or were?) some beta testers who are forum members, but they are required to sign a non-disclosure agreement.
It would appear that Media Studio Pro and DVD Workshop are being left behind. There has been no Vista update for Workshop, and AFAIK, there is no Vista update for MSP either.
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I have both a dual core vista 32 bit machine and a quad core vista 64 bit machine... MSP does not work properly on either one. I can ALMOST get it to work on the 32 bit machine but there is no hope at all on the 64. Even when running on Xp 32 bit quad core... it's slow. It is most certainly NOT a multi thread program.goprovideo wrote:I just began operating a new 64 bit processor machine (2 xeon 550's duals, and my Media Studio pro 8 will not run properly. Is there a workaround to get the software to run on a 64 bit machine. I'm a long time user since 2000 and now am about to switch software programs if I continue to have problems. Any comments would be appreciated.
Tom Mullen
Go Pro Video Productions.
www.goprovideo.biz
As DVDDoug points out it appears that MSP may well be discontinued anyway, so you may as well bite the bullet now and start shopping for another editor.
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goprovideo
MSP8 runs on XP 64 bit
Can I just check whether you mean a 64bit capable processor, or a 64-bit OS?
I can confirm that I can run MSP8 on an XP 64-bit OS, running on an Intel Q6600 CoreDuo.
I can also confirm that MSP8 does NOT install on Vista, either 64 bit or 32 bit, and there is a warning that there are known compatibility issues with it.
Regards
John Baker
I can confirm that I can run MSP8 on an XP 64-bit OS, running on an Intel Q6600 CoreDuo.
I can also confirm that MSP8 does NOT install on Vista, either 64 bit or 32 bit, and there is a warning that there are known compatibility issues with it.
Regards
John Baker
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goprovideo
My system CPUs are dual Xeon 550s, 64 bit capable processors. When I loaded xp 64 OS professional edition the MSP8 would not function properly. After removing xp 64 and installing xp 32 OS professional all seems to be working. I am working on a video project and so far so good.
Thanks John,
Tom Mullen
Thanks John,
Tom Mullen
Gosh, that's a bit of a conundrum.
I wouldn't have thought there would be any difference between the Xeons and the CoreDuo Quads as far as the apps are concerned.
What were the symptoms when MSP didn't run? Presumably it installed ok, but failed during execution? On my setup, all functions I've tried are fine, including capture etc. Only difference I noticed on the XP 64 were that the Lagarith codecs that used to be available under XP 32 don't appear anymore. The cineform codec worked ok. I think this applies to any vfw codecs.
What is your DX and graphic card setup, could that have a bearing? I'm running on dual ATI 1950 pros. Also, might be worth checking on permissions e.g. to the apps directory as XP64 appears to be more stringent than on XP32 (based on Windows server defaults to some extent). Are you running as Administrator? Did you apply the MSP service pack?
I guess you'd want to be running on XP 64 bit, so could you consider running MSP8 in a virtual machine until the issue is resolved? MS Virtual PC is free for download.
Regards John Baker
I wouldn't have thought there would be any difference between the Xeons and the CoreDuo Quads as far as the apps are concerned.
What were the symptoms when MSP didn't run? Presumably it installed ok, but failed during execution? On my setup, all functions I've tried are fine, including capture etc. Only difference I noticed on the XP 64 were that the Lagarith codecs that used to be available under XP 32 don't appear anymore. The cineform codec worked ok. I think this applies to any vfw codecs.
What is your DX and graphic card setup, could that have a bearing? I'm running on dual ATI 1950 pros. Also, might be worth checking on permissions e.g. to the apps directory as XP64 appears to be more stringent than on XP32 (based on Windows server defaults to some extent). Are you running as Administrator? Did you apply the MSP service pack?
I guess you'd want to be running on XP 64 bit, so could you consider running MSP8 in a virtual machine until the issue is resolved? MS Virtual PC is free for download.
Regards John Baker
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goprovideo
Thank Jpal,
When attempting to run/load msp I have problems straight-away, it will not load properly and when importing an avi file, msp will not begin to function properly (latches, crashas, etc.). All this occured with the 64 bit xp os.
Runing windows 32 bit os msp works. Comparing msp to Vagas I found that Vagas renders 2x faster than msp.
Moving forward, I now plan on runing a dual boot sytem to include a 32 xp and a 64 xp os. With this in mind I could migrate to a newer editing system like Vagas. It all depends on my work-load which is to be determined for 2007.
Thanks for the input,
Tom Mullen
When attempting to run/load msp I have problems straight-away, it will not load properly and when importing an avi file, msp will not begin to function properly (latches, crashas, etc.). All this occured with the 64 bit xp os.
Runing windows 32 bit os msp works. Comparing msp to Vagas I found that Vagas renders 2x faster than msp.
Moving forward, I now plan on runing a dual boot sytem to include a 32 xp and a 64 xp os. With this in mind I could migrate to a newer editing system like Vagas. It all depends on my work-load which is to be determined for 2007.
Thanks for the input,
Tom Mullen
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jday
I am a longtime MSP user but recently switched to Vegas 7 due to the uncertainty of MSP's future. Although right now there is no 64-bit version of Vegas, I believe it has been announced that the next major update will include a 64-bit version. IBC (which I gather is a big trade show in Europe) is set for the second week of September and that is when "Vegas 8 Pro" is supposedly going to be announced (and hopefully released). There is a lot of speculation on the vegas forums as to exactly what is going to be included, but no official announcement until IBC.
Some of the leaked articles include things such as improved titler, multi-cam editing capabilities, VISTA support and a 64-bit version. I'm anxiously awaiting the official announcement.
Some of the leaked articles include things such as improved titler, multi-cam editing capabilities, VISTA support and a 64-bit version. I'm anxiously awaiting the official announcement.
Jim, I was interested in that possibility of a native 64 bit vegas - we'll see what happens I guess. Vegas 7e works fine as a 32 bit app in XP64 (I looked at the trial version), and looked nice although it's obviously very rich in features and I could only scratch the surface. Funnily enough, I do like that I could minimise the window and have multiple instances. Simple but quite nice.
Even as 32 bit, apps can use up to 4G although some have a 2G limit in. I was finding that with HD content a total 2G for the whole system was a constraint.
Personally I'm sitting on the fence with migration and am fine with continuing with MSP for a while - I want to see what happens with Vegas and Premiere before I spend a lot of effort getting up to speed with them. I'll possibly add to MSP an intermediate codec like Cineform Neo, and using a variety of final render software to produce the end product. Seems like increasingly we'll need that whatever our chosen edit platform as the input and output formats are getting so varied!
Regards John B
Even as 32 bit, apps can use up to 4G although some have a 2G limit in. I was finding that with HD content a total 2G for the whole system was a constraint.
Personally I'm sitting on the fence with migration and am fine with continuing with MSP for a while - I want to see what happens with Vegas and Premiere before I spend a lot of effort getting up to speed with them. I'll possibly add to MSP an intermediate codec like Cineform Neo, and using a variety of final render software to produce the end product. Seems like increasingly we'll need that whatever our chosen edit platform as the input and output formats are getting so varied!
Regards John B
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Apps: MSP8, VS11.5+, Sony Vegas Pro 8, Bryce, Daz3d, Cool3D 3.5, PhotoImpact + Canon HV20, Sony TRV 900E