Picture (Slide) shake after burning to DVD

btfjf · Post by **btfjf** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:28 pm

I started a new dvd (slides only) project. Added 700+ pic's/transitions-Pans/music. Then saved project.Shut down computer. Next day, realized that the added 's pic's(transferred from Picasa-Google)needed to be edited(sharpened and colour corrected). Did those changes in Google-Picasa-.Re-opened Ulead VidStud 9. Program said these project pic's needed to be re-linked. I did that and continued on to burning the DVD. On playback, most,(but not all) pic's "jump-move" after each transition (Crossfade). I have tried to slow burn speed but to no avail.I tried to burn again (hoping that this problem was a "one off"). No luck.The playback on the computer is beautiful, though. No shake at all. Question: Do I need to replace every pic on the Timeline? Because I edited these pic's after using the original's, does that mean I have to start over?Any and all help much appreciated as I have possibly wasted a great amount of time on this.Thank you.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:38 pm

How did you go about burning the DVD? Did you go straight to the burn module with your project in the timeline?

If so, please read the Suggested Workflow.

btfjf · Post by **btfjf** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:37 pm

I rendered it in Ulead Vidstud 9 (from the "create disc" option of the "Share" tab)...I added this rendered file to Nero 6.0;(?-not the most current version-My version was bought in 2003). I added a menu and burned it with Nero. :(

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:23 pm

The fact that the rendered file (via VS) plays fine on your pc, but the burned file (via Nero) doesn't, leads me to believe it's a burn problem with Nero.

Did you try burning with VS?

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:18 pm

The other thing you might want to think about is producing another file from the project (Share > Create Video File > DVD), but this time using Frame Based instead of Upper or Lower Field First (if you in fact used either of the latter two). I always burn my slideshows using Frame Based and have had no disappointments.

MrA · Post by **MrA** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:54 am

Also, check, however not sure, but in VS 10+ in prefences there is an anti-flicker option for images that should be checked on. (not sure if it is in VS 9)

btfjf · Post by **btfjf** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:58 pm

Last night I rendered a new vsp file for this project. Burned it in Ulead VidStud 9...Still have the "shakes" (both literally and figuratively)..I tried burning the original project (this time in Ulead as opposed to Nero) but , although the "icon" for my project was transferred it into the "Create menu" screen time line, the "next" button would not light up.It also would not let me do anything, such as titles/menu picture/video, etc. The new file (mentioned above) did let me do all the extra's in the menu screen, though, but the end result was still the same.I am starting to think that my original project has some sort of "transfer/download" problem, so this project was doomed from the start. It should be pointed out that there were 3 contributors of pic's for this project. 2 were from typical digital camera's (one 8.0; the other 10.2 gbs)-the first 4 pic's (of the entire project) were taken from an e-mail-They actually turned out the best. They are actually better than a lot of the other "camera" pic's. Is it possible that because the first 4 pic's were not from a "Camera" that the Key frame/first frame used the e-mail pic's specifications, hence screwing up the rest?(Just a wild guess) My present inclination is to just scrap it and start over. Thank you for your replies. I appreciate the help. If you feel this is going to be more of a pain to fix than it would be to re-do, plz let me know, and I'll chalk it up to the vagaries of a computer. :cry:

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:20 pm

What are the properties of the different pics (right click on each different type and post their properties)?

Do you follow the Suggested Workflow?

btfjf · Post by **btfjf** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:36 pm

Re: Suggested Workflow...Yes, I follow it. I always use the Editor program. I import from media files already on the hard drive (video and /or pic's as required)to the media library.Then add Transistions/Pans. Then add music.(also saving it to the library) (and saving the entire project as I go). Then I click on "Share"..Clk on "Create video file" (as I usually burn with Nero) or "Burn DVD" if I am going to burn with Ulead. I have made and burned many different projects, using both video and still pic's as overlays, with great results. As I am writing this from work, and this is a home computer project, I can't check the properties right now. To the best of my knowledge, The pic's are JPEG; The pic's from the e-mail, I don't know. However, to get these pic's into Ulead, I had to save them to a folder, and then access that folder while in Ulead. :(

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:51 pm

Last night I rendered a new vsp file for this project. Burned it in Ulead VidStud 9

This is NOT the suggested workflow. After assembling your slideshow, inserting transitions and titles etc, you should go to Share > Create Video File > DVD. You should NOT select Share > Create Disk.

And when you select Share > Create Video File > DVD, change the Options in the template to Frame Based as I have already suggested. Also make sure the Anti-Flicker option is ticked.

It will take some time for the rendering to take place, but at the end of it, you will have a DVD-compatible mpeg-2. You then save your project (.vsp), yes, but that is just to save the project. The important thing is the mpeg-2. Then select File > New Project. This will clear the timeline of your slideshow. Don't worry about giving the new project a name -- the important thing is to clear the timeline.

At this stage, you can use an external software player like PowerDVD or Windows Media Player, to play back the mpeg-2 to see if it looks OK.

NOW you can go to Share > Create Disk. The burning module will now open but NOTHING should be in its timeline when it opens. You use the Add Media button to manually add your new mpeg-2. Then you build your menu and preview the whole thing.

After that, you get to the last page of the burning module. Now here you can either burn your slideshow to an actual disc, or -- my own preference -- instead burn to a DVD Folder i.e. Video_TS (although you can also choose disc image -- .iso file). The advantage of this is that again you can play back what you have "burned" on a software DVD player to see if things are OK. If they are, then you can burn the actual DVD using the Video_TS folder in Nero (and indeed, burn as many copies as you want).

astrovideo · Post by **astrovideo** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:35 pm

Ken Berry wrote: And when you select Share > Create Video File > DVD, change the Options in the template to Frame Based as I have already suggested. Also make sure the Anti-Flicker option is ticked.

Ken,
I have heard you mention this before about changing the options durring the Create Video File prcedure. I only have very limited options when choosing one of the pre-made templets. My options are:
Entire Project
Play file after creating it
Perfom SmartRender
Perform non-square pixel rendering
Create video file with specified duration

However, if I choose custom, I get 3 tabs, chock full of options - inluding the ones you mention above. I am using version 10+. Am I missing something?

Thanks!

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:02 pm

The point is that you don't choose one of the fixed templates because they are ... er ... fixed, apart from the characteristics you can change with the Options button that you have identified.

Instead, you choose Custom. The Dialogue box that appears allows you to give your new video file (yet to be produced) a name. Make sure you first select 'MPEG files (.mpg)' in the Save as Type box, since you will be producing a DVD-compatible mpeg-2.

The dialogue box will also show the properties that will be used if they are not changed. Normally, those that appear by default are the project properties used. If you want to change any of the properties, you select the Options button. This time a three tab box appears. Select the right hand tab (Compression) first and change the various possibilities there to what you want making sure they within the DVD standard. Then do the same with the middle tab (General). Then select OK, and OK again, and the rendering should start.

If you think you are going to use that sort of template again, with the same properties, then go to Tools > Make Movie Manager, and make a permanent template, give it a name, and it will henceforth appear down towards the bottom of the drop-down menu when in future you select Share > Create Video File.

btfjf · Post by **btfjf** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:40 am

Greetings...I came home tonight, followed your advice to the letter and Voila! a beautiful DVD was born (5 actually). The 2 tips you gave me were exactly what I needed..The shake is long gone; the colour even seems brighter.I would like to to thank you very much for your help and the time put in by you to help. As they say DownUnder-"good on ya Mate!.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:20 am

Really glad it worked -- or as some of my less refined compatriots might say: "Beauty bonzer mate!"

astrovideo · Post by **astrovideo** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:10 pm

Ken Berry wrote:The point is that you don't choose one of the fixed templates because they are ... er ... fixed, apart from the characteristics you can change with the Options button that you have identified.

Instead, you choose Custom. The Dialogue box that appears allows you to give your new video file (yet to be produced) a name. Make sure you first select 'MPEG files (.mpg)' in the Save as Type box, since you will be producing a DVD-compatible mpeg-2.

But, in your earlier reply you said to go to Share > Create Video File > DVD (not Share > Create Video File > Custom).

Anyway, isn't the fixed DVD template already setup to create a DVD-compatible MPEG-2? If so, why customize?