Ok, last issue, and no logical reason for it that I can see...
I create the Main Menu (MENU), with just two buttons - Play & Scene Select. The starting default is Play, which plays the single-title version of the show (1 Title, 14 chapters). 12 second "loop" with 1 loop selected. After 12 seconds, it goes to Custom Button, which is selected as the Scene Selection menu (MENU-01). From here, it's a 1-loop, 20 second menu with 5 Title Buttons (a second copy of the main show, but broken into 5 parts, so it will play the Scene, then return to the same menu). 4 of the Scene Button images are still, with the last one as an animated button. There is also a Home button. Default is Scene 1, however at the end of 20 seconds, it will go Custom Button - Home... Which is ACTUALLY MENUa... A clone of MENU, except when this 12 seconds runs out, the whole show auto-plays (instead of going to Scene Select).
This all works flawlessly in the Preview (Finish) Window.
However, when I put it to ISO, MENU & MENUa both fail to proceed automatically when no button is pressed (after 12 seconds, and even for several minutes after that). But it's not a complete loss, as MENU-01 does EXACTLY what it's supposed to do in both preview & ISO (default to scene 1, go to MENUa after 20 seconds). So why two of the Menus fail to proceed, but one works perfectly, is greatly confusing me. I have tried this both with Daemon Tools for use on my PC DVD player, as well as a burned disk on my real DVD player. I have also re-ISO'd twice, with identical results.
Below is a link to several applicable screenshots (new-1.jpg ~ new-9.jpg). Any help would be greatly appreciated!
http://www3.telus.net/fhldevils/accra/
Thanx!
- Jason
Inconsistant Menu Auto-Play
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GeorgeW
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Is the final DVD Image going to be burned to a Single or Double layer disc (how large is the ISO image) 
I tried to setup a project close to what you described, and it seems to play as expected (I used small test files, burned to DVD Folders and used PowerDVD to play back from the DVD Folders).
Regards,
George
I tried to setup a project close to what you described, and it seems to play as expected (I used small test files, burned to DVD Folders and used PowerDVD to play back from the DVD Folders).
Regards,
George
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Viridel
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It's sitting at 1.59Gb, so definitely single-layer (under 18 minutes long)... The areas of "uniqueness" that may be causing grief (as far as I could figure) would include:
- MENU & MENUa are only set to go 12 seconds, while the menu that works (MENU-01) is 20 seconds
- MENU & MENUa are clones, with the only difference is that MENU auto-times to the Scene Select, while MENUa auto-times to the "main movie"
- There are two copies of the SAME movie (same source data as well), one ~18 minutes long, broken into 14 chapters, one broken into 9 titles, with between 0 and 3 chapters each.
- It's set for HQ mode (60 minutes), however only 1.59Gb are taken up. I would figure that 2x 18 minutes should take up ~60% of the disk (~2.75Gb)
- The music is the exact length of the menu. If the clip was 11.999 seconds in a 12 second menu, could that cause grief?
I have ASUS Dvd software, and I made the DVD Folders you suggested, but I'm kinda' embarrassed to say that I have no idea what file I should use to trigger the disk to play thru the software (since all the ISO disks I have made just go automatically, but there's no AutoPlay file in the DVD Folders).
- J
- MENU & MENUa are only set to go 12 seconds, while the menu that works (MENU-01) is 20 seconds
- MENU & MENUa are clones, with the only difference is that MENU auto-times to the Scene Select, while MENUa auto-times to the "main movie"
- There are two copies of the SAME movie (same source data as well), one ~18 minutes long, broken into 14 chapters, one broken into 9 titles, with between 0 and 3 chapters each.
- It's set for HQ mode (60 minutes), however only 1.59Gb are taken up. I would figure that 2x 18 minutes should take up ~60% of the disk (~2.75Gb)
- The music is the exact length of the menu. If the clip was 11.999 seconds in a 12 second menu, could that cause grief?
I have ASUS Dvd software, and I made the DVD Folders you suggested, but I'm kinda' embarrassed to say that I have no idea what file I should use to trigger the disk to play thru the software (since all the ISO disks I have made just go automatically, but there's no AutoPlay file in the DVD Folders).
- J
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Viridel
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Ok, I'm getting frustrated to the point of dumping this software... Ok, not quite... But this just isn't working right! I've even done a fresh re-install!
As per the last post, I can now get MENUa to auto-play to the selection (I didn't do anything, it just worked on this last burn)... But the main MENU still will not auto-play to anything... And the two settings are identical, except that MENU uses "Use Custom Button", and MENUa uses "Use Default Button"... However, MENU1 uses "Use Custom Button" just fine! I need to know WHY one menu will fail when the clone works fine (at the moment) and another menu works just fine!!!
Another quirk on the last burn... In comparing the differences between an MPEG & AVI import, Title5 of the AVI dropped its audio, while every other title works, and the MPEG version is perfectly fine. One time glitch, or is this something I can expect to happen?
As per the last post, I can now get MENUa to auto-play to the selection (I didn't do anything, it just worked on this last burn)... But the main MENU still will not auto-play to anything... And the two settings are identical, except that MENU uses "Use Custom Button", and MENUa uses "Use Default Button"... However, MENU1 uses "Use Custom Button" just fine! I need to know WHY one menu will fail when the clone works fine (at the moment) and another menu works just fine!!!
Another quirk on the last burn... In comparing the differences between an MPEG & AVI import, Title5 of the AVI dropped its audio, while every other title works, and the MPEG version is perfectly fine. One time glitch, or is this something I can expect to happen?
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GeorgeW
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Viridel
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DB83
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I cannot go to the program just now to test this (recovering from a total re-install)
What I think is happening is that your menus are running in loop. They incremenet every 12 seconds and once the full time-out is reached it switches to default play.
Had a similar problem so you may like to try this. From memory Ithink I solved it like this
For MENU, you need 3 buttons. The first two are the ones you describe and you click/select them in the usual way but no autorun.
The 3rd button, once set up as the custom button, if you cannot set it to hidden just make it so small that no one except you will know it is there.
Set that button to autorun to the next menu after the time-out i.e 12 secs
Do the same with the second menu. No autoruns with the main buttons and another 'hiden' custom button for the time-out.
try it. I will reload the software over the weekend and take a closer look.
What I think is happening is that your menus are running in loop. They incremenet every 12 seconds and once the full time-out is reached it switches to default play.
Had a similar problem so you may like to try this. From memory Ithink I solved it like this
For MENU, you need 3 buttons. The first two are the ones you describe and you click/select them in the usual way but no autorun.
The 3rd button, once set up as the custom button, if you cannot set it to hidden just make it so small that no one except you will know it is there.
Set that button to autorun to the next menu after the time-out i.e 12 secs
Do the same with the second menu. No autoruns with the main buttons and another 'hiden' custom button for the time-out.
try it. I will reload the software over the weekend and take a closer look.
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DB83
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Ok. I think I simulated your project.
There is no need for any additional buttons. I think I confused myself with another project.
There seems to be a problem with a still menu as when I did this I did not have a loop. The project just stopped running after the first time-out.
However, by creating a motion background on each menu and having a single loop - I did default to 20 secs although I see no reason why this cannot be for less time - and using the buttons and links on the screen the flow was as you desired.
Just one thing. On Menu_a I set the 'Scene Select' as the default highlight button so there is no possible program confusion in having 'Play' as the custom/auto run button after the time-out in that menu.
There is no need for any additional buttons. I think I confused myself with another project.
There seems to be a problem with a still menu as when I did this I did not have a loop. The project just stopped running after the first time-out.
However, by creating a motion background on each menu and having a single loop - I did default to 20 secs although I see no reason why this cannot be for less time - and using the buttons and links on the screen the flow was as you desired.
Just one thing. On Menu_a I set the 'Scene Select' as the default highlight button so there is no possible program confusion in having 'Play' as the custom/auto run button after the time-out in that menu.
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Viridel
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Actually, I ended up doing that exact same thing... Forcing a 20 second video into the background (even if it's practically a video of a still picture)...
I noticed on the menu that worked (MENU1), it had a duration of 20, and a LOOP POINT of 0:00:00.0... On the two that were failing, the Loop Point was blank... So, I considered the difference between the two types, and MENU1 has a motion button, whereas the MENU / MENUa were completely static. Created a 20 second video to use as a background... Loop Point filled in automatically (to 0:00:00.0)... And haven't had a problem since!
Still not entirely LOGICAL!
But at least it's a viable workaround.
Thanx for your help!
- Jason
I noticed on the menu that worked (MENU1), it had a duration of 20, and a LOOP POINT of 0:00:00.0... On the two that were failing, the Loop Point was blank... So, I considered the difference between the two types, and MENU1 has a motion button, whereas the MENU / MENUa were completely static. Created a 20 second video to use as a background... Loop Point filled in automatically (to 0:00:00.0)... And haven't had a problem since!
Still not entirely LOGICAL!
But at least it's a viable workaround.Thanx for your help!
- Jason
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DB83
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