Problems using H.264 MOV file from Aiptek GO-HD camcorder

[jsevinsky]

I just purchased an Aiptek GO-HD hi-def camcorder that outputs movies in 16:9 1280x720 H.264 MOV files. I can't seem to get these to work with VS10 or VS11. It either locks up when rendering to a DVD (VS10), or the DVD that it makes has extremely choppy video and audio and is unusable (VS11). Has anyone else had luck editing videos from this camcorder?

There are a few sample videos available for download. You can find them by reading this forum:

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/forum ... orum_id=92

[Black Lab]

Do a search for H.264 and you'll find a lot of info.

This one will get you started: http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... hlight=264

[Jerry Jones]

You could convert the files to a more editable format.

I admit it's expensive.

But I'm coming around to the notion that it's better to transcode AVCHD to .avi using a good intermediate codec.

Corel (formerly Ulead) has heavily advertised the fact that their software can natively edit long GOP files (such as high definition AVCHD and MPEG-2).

However, we've discovered that when you render out your timeline with titles and other effects, you'll see a slight glitch immediately after a title, for example, and it is a bug that seems to make the native editing of long GOP formats less appealing.

For $250, you can buy Neo HDV from Cineform:

http://www.cineform.com/index.asp?PageA ... ID=86&HS=1

They include an application called "HDLink."

http://www.cineform.com/products/TechNo ... ersion.htm

Convert your AVCHD to an I-Frame format.

Edit.

Then export by transcoding back to a delivery format, which would likely be high definition MPEG-2.

This is my new approach to the problem.

I'll be testing Neo HDV soon with my AVCHD camcorder.

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

[jsevinsky]

I don't believe that the Aiptek GO-HD camcorder outputs AVCHD. If I do a "properties" on one of the files, VS11 tells me:

File format: QuickTime Movie Files
Movie Size: 1280x720
Video Track 1
Compression: mbarella AVC encoder
Attributes: 24 bits, 1280x720
Frame rate: 30.030 frames/sec
Sound Track 1
Compression: MPEG-4 Audio
Attributes: 48.000 KHz, 16 bits, Stereo

[Jerry Jones]

Actually, it's not AVCHD.

But it's similar.

AVCHD is essentially a variation of H.264/MPEG-4.

The video recorded by the Aiptek camcorder doesn't appear to qualify as AVCHD, but it does qualify as H.264/MPEG-4.

It's a long GOP format inserted into a QuickTime .MOV wrapper.

The Ulead products are not native QuickTime editors.

So editing a format like that is naturally going to be a drag on any computer system.

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

I don't believe that the Aiptek GO-HD camcorder outputs AVCHD. If I do a "properties" on one of the files, VS11 tells me:

File format: QuickTime Movie Files
Movie Size: 1280x720
Video Track 1
Compression: mbarella AVC encoder
Attributes: 24 bits, 1280x720
Frame rate: 30.030 frames/sec
Sound Track 1
Compression: MPEG-4 Audio
Attributes: 48.000 KHz, 16 bits, Stereo

[jsevinsky]

You could convert the files to a more editable format.

Does that mean something other than a MOV file, or something other than H.264 video? Or both? I'm asking because I tried to convert it to to an AVI that uses HD XviD/DivX. The result looked OK, but the video quality was not as good as the original. (I never tried the result in VS10/VS11.) I also tried a utility that just converted it from a MOV file to an AVI without transcoding the video, but that didn't help with VS10/VS11.

[Jerry Jones]

The codec you tried isn't designed for editing either.

I'm afraid Cineform's Neo HDV -- at $250 -- is the cheapest solution to convert so-called "long GOP" formats into I-frame formats for easy editing.

The "HDLink" utility that is included with Neo HDV should allow for conversion from .MOV H.264 (long GOP) high definition to easy-to-edit-on-the-PC high definition Cineform .AVI (I-Frame) files.

http://www.cineform.com/products/TechNo ... HDLink.htm

http://www.cineform.com/index.asp?PageA ... ID=86&HS=1

I'm told the Cineform codec is specially designed to retain almost as much quality as the original source files; Cineform claims the human eye can't see the difference.

In addition, the resulting Cineform .avi files are a snap to edit, I'm told.

But there are penalties to pay.

1. Transcoding takes time
2. The Cineform .avi files will consume hard disk space

I'll be testing it, myself, for the first time in the next few days.

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

[Marten]

install quicktimealt147.exe. It solved all my mov problems

[Marten]

please let me know if it helped

best regards,

Marten

[dadan71]

Try this, hopefully it will help:

http://www.aiptek.com/support.htm
http://www.aiptek.com/Camcorders/HD/H12/reviews/

[Ken Berry]

Given that the thread you attached your post to was over 3 years old, and given that you had nothing substantive to say about Video Studio, I suspect your post comes perilously close to spam in favour of Aiptek...