VS10 random crashes....

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cameater

VS10 random crashes....

Post by cameater »

I have 4 disks, 4 gb of ram, enough hard disk space free, and alt least Ulead VS10 with the service pack.

c: 36 GB, 15 gb free
d: 320 GB, 280 free
f: 320 GB, 80 free (the temp drive)
h: 500 GB, 25 gb free

all drives are sata

Ulead says it requires 8 gb on the temp drive and 4 gb on d: for creating a 4 GB dvd image.

What I do: putting a D8 tape in the camcorder, transfer the video on hard disk and let it cut the video in scenes automatically. That results in a video with 5 chapters, maybe 20 or 50 - each time the stop button is pressed.

All of the video is grabbed by firewire and stored in D8 format on h:

I add the DVD chapters automatically, do no special cuttings except selecting dual pass encoding, everything else is by default. In the output process I let it write an iso image file to burn it later.

So my problem is:
sometimes and without rules it fails it crashes, and more often if I activate the dual pass encoding. It happens that it produces a crash of VS if encoding in dualpass is selected, and that the same movie works with singlepass encoding. The crash mostly happens in the menu creation process that can endure more than 3 hours, but a smaller (30 min) movie is finished after 75 minutes in singlepass and after 90 minutes in dualpass encoding.

I think my machine is strong enough and absolutely stable, and it's only equipped with highest quality hardware (see my machine details), no virus scanner is active and the system restore is deactivated for all drives except c:
sjj1805
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Post by sjj1805 »

I would check for overheating - this only occurs during heavy video rendering - the machine cools off again when done.

Take the side panels off your CPU and look for dust or dirt in the fans etc.
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Post by Clevo »

Also check Windows XP Event Viewer

To open Event Viewer, click Start, click Control Panel, double-click Administrative Tools, and then double-click Event Viewer.

You will see a list of all Windows events (incl crashes from previous sessions) and in most cases what's caused them.

Had I known about event viewer I would have realised after replacing the motherboard that my hard drive was crashing not because of the CPU fan, Modem, cd drive, graphics card or HD needed replacing but it was because the "technician" had hooked up the HDD cable to IDE2 instead of IDE1.

:)

Event Viewer is my new best frined...
cameater

imo 95% software error....

Post by cameater »

Hi! Thanks for your suggestions....

That what shows my event viewer:

Fehlgeschlagene Anwendung vstudio.exe, Version 10.0.0.0, fehlgeschlagenes Modul mpgvout.004, Version 1.2.9.31, Fehleradresse 0x00039f36.

That means application error in the mpeg module. System errors, due to cpu malfunction or ram errors show mostly a c0000005 stop entry or nothing, just a reboot of the machine.

I experienced that one year ago with noname ram, but in that case ALL apps were instable - e.g. VS10 crashes after 5 minutes just editing a project, virtualdub crashes after 5 min of divx6 encoding, the Windows Media Encoder crashed too, avi playback stuck after 30 minutes and so on. Now I have only dualchannel-ready ram, and of course nothing overclocked. 12 hours of WMV encoding succeeded, 12 hours of divx encoding is stable.

I checked the temperature - and the PC health information:
cpu temperature 32¢XC, Fan runs at 850 rpm, system temp is 45¢XC that's the big golden cooler at the CPU fan.

As you see on the pic there is a 12 cm fan on the CPU, a 12 cm fan for exhaust and a 14 cm fan in the 600w power supply - overheating seems not to be the cause for the VS crashes. btw, the PC case is open, outside temp is 23¢XC


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I read some articles here, they suggest that a filesize > 2 GB can be bad, but the biggest one is 1,2 GB, all other are below that. I found also something with the name 'recommended procedure' that suggests to create ONE video file from my project , import that into a new project and set the chaper markers by hands - yep, that's a lot of work, and I just wanted to do the simple things: capture a tape, make a dvd with auto-generated chapters, and burn that.

I made some attempts with VS to bypass the 2pass problem:

1.) coded my project (60 files) with dualpass into an .iso file, result: crash
2.) I encoded the very same project with mpeg singlepass encoding - it works. SUCCESS!
3.) I renamed the file to prjxxxxx-singlepass.iso and .adp, and used the same filename and switched on again the mpeg dualpass option - SUCCESS!

then I encoded another project in singlepass - it works. renamed the output files, encoded with dualpass - it works.
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