What are the easy ways of converting video from tape to DVD?

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Post by Ken Berry »

If you intend to do no more that prepare DVD Folders, then you don't have to 'fool' anything. You simply make the setting for a DL DVD and it will happily give you a 5.7 GB DVD Folder. But if your intention is eventually to burn it to a single layer DVD, then I am afraid compression is going to have to be applied at some stage. You will have the choice of either applying the compression at the stage before you produced your 'oversized' file; or during the preparation of the DVD folder. Or else you will have to apply something like DVD Shrink or Nero Recode to your existing 5.7 GB DVD folder once it is prepared. No choice in the matter. Otherwise, you simpy cannot burn 5.7GB to a 4.3 GB DVD.

As for the question about Field Order, since you don't tell us exactly what you were capturing and how you captured it, no one can say. If you captured from VHS or an analogue source (which I assume you did from your comment about digitizing it), if you used a 'normal' analogue to digital capture device and captured, say, to DVD compliant mpeg-2, it would 'normally' use Upper Field First. However, if you used an expensive device which captured directly to DV/AVI, or used a digital mini DV camera as a passthrough device (or a Sony Digital 8), connected to your computer via Firewire, then it would be Lower Field First.

As for the 'do not convert' box, if you either captured and edited in DVD compliant mpeg-2, or else used Share > Create Video File > DVD, and produced a DVD compliant mpeg-2 of your project, then you opened the burning module, ticking that box will mean that the burning module will not change the properties of the mpeg-2 when it is burned to disc. It is irrelevant, in that case, what the burning properties might be in the window which appears above that box. The burning module will use the mpeg-2's properties if they are indeed DVD compliant. And above all, the mpeg-2 will not be re-rendered in the burning process.
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Post by auldyin »

Thanks!

I think that there is a major problem with my 11+ installation.

Share---Create Disc
File size is shown as 5.7G

If I then change the Project Type to HD DVD and then back again to 4.7G, the file size changes to 4.69G!!

I am now totally and hopelessly lost!

Help!

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Post by Black Lab »

The file size changed because you changed the settings. You still haven't told us what the end result will be. DVD, viewing on a pc, upload to web???
mghia

Post by mghia »

Hi,
Yes I did get the COVERTNG VIDEO OF TITLE progress bar.

That is why I was confused since I was jsut trying to stitch the clips together and did not have titles.
When I first set this up, under preferences I did set all the setting to match below.
I set the quality to 100%

VS told me that my captured video is:

MPEG files
24 bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Upper Field First
(DVD-NTSC), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
LPCM Audio, 48000 Hz, Stereo

After I saved as a .VSP.
I selected new project. Nothing in the time line.

From there I clicked share.
In the share create disk burn phase I did check NTSC PAL safe color.

The TV setting bleow that was set to 10% since I thought that was for sizing. In the past I used to have a line at the bottom or top and this time it did not. would that have it render longer?

I then clicked both tabs on the bottom left and also made some changed. I changed the audio from Dolby to what miy clip is,LPCM as well as changed lower feild which was default to Upper.

The first time id did say I did not have enough hard disk space, but allowed the burn. I have 114 free on that drive and it was saying something like needs 4.x, only has 2.8, ect .

Upon a second test, following the suggestions, I did not get the hard disk size and requirements and when clicked burn, the "converting video of titlle" bar was still displayed.

It would seem that for my needs it would have been faster to buy a DVR and run the VCR tape into it to convert without menus. I just did not know if the quality was the same since at least with VS I can control the settings and then if I wanted, add chapters. However for a TV show it is just too much wait time to render 6 clips of 42 mintues total. Why can the DVR do it on the fly (well I have never used one but assume they record over a tape in real time. )

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Post by auldyin »

Sorry!

Story so far

Captured VHS Video tape to HD with a view to editing, titling etc prior to burning to DVD using 11+. End product for archival purposes to be viewed on TV, computer, stand alone.

File created was 5.7G and would therefore need to be compressed. Created iso file with quality quite poor. (it was a 1990's video to start with)

Because of file size, decided to create DVD Folder which I could compress using CCE Basic in order to compare quality of compressed files.

Before continuing with this (see post), I changed the Project Type to HD DVD and then back to Project Type DVD 4.7G.

The file size changed to 4.38G (error in post here I indicated size at 4.69G, sorry) which would not require compression.

I am creating this at the moment. (rendering is taking place, no compression required).

Therein lies my problem

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Post by Black Lab »

IMO, you are wasting your time trying to convert VHS to HD. What do they say about making silk from a sow's ear?

If you want your VHS tapes on DVD I would use a bit rate of 4000. That would give you about 2 hours worth of VHS quality (or possibly slightly better) on one DVD.
Trevor Andrew

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi Jeff

I am using the trial version of VS 11

How do you set the Bitrate to capture at 4000.

Using earlier versions I could select many capture video properties, in VS 11 all I see is templates, with no options to alter???????

Am I missing something???????????
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Post by Black Lab »

Tevor,

I'm still using v10, although I do have the v11 trial that I have only briefly fiddled with (I'm working on a big project and wanted to wait until I was finished before trying out v11). I was under the assumption v11 would have the same templates as v10. Apparently I am mistaken. :oops:
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