Character problem and Videostudio 11+

weaver · Post by **weaver** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:15 am

jparnold wrote:I read with much interest this post as I am nearing the end of editing my videos taken last year while on a tour of most of the Scandinavian countries.

I was able to create the special characters required such as in Flåm (Norway) in my titles and I'm grateful to the originator of this thread.

HOWEVER I CANNOT create these special characters when entering text for names in the movie MENU below the thumbnail for a chapter.
When I enter Fl then ALT 0229 then m it displays as Fl0229m.
Any suggestions?

Hi jparnold

This is because those names are created in standard ASCII environment (like many others in file management). Thos characters are definite on all computers while our special character like the ALT 229 are different in every PC, so for. eg. on my PC with German OS this character is:

£m a greek letter

the ALT 0229 is

å the flamish character.

(I am not sure that behind ALT all numbers bigger than 256 are always supported - at least not according the ASCII code table.)

Anyway I think there is a huge garbage hill in OS with those many languages and their interpretation and decoding by different softwares.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:23 am

John -- I just tried it in VS11 on my XP Pro computer. In the menu creation stage, I just typed the word as you said (Flåm) as a title, and it worked properly.

Are you sure you typed the Alt+0229 part in the numerical keyboard to the right hand end of your standard keyboard?

weaver · Post by **weaver** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:35 am

weaver wrote:
jparnold wrote:I read with much interest this post as I am nearing the end of editing my videos taken last year while on a tour of most of the Scandinavian countries.

I was able to create the special characters required such as in Flåm (Norway) in my titles and I'm grateful to the originator of this thread.

HOWEVER I CANNOT create these special characters when entering text for names in the movie MENU below the thumbnail for a chapter.
When I enter Fl then ALT 0229 then m it displays as Fl0229m.
Any suggestions?
Hi jparnold

This is because those names are created in standard ASCII environment (like many others in file management). Thos characters are definite on all computers while our special character like the ALT 229 are different in every PC, so for. eg. on my PC with German OS this character is:

£m a greek letter

the ALT 0229 is

å the flamish character.

(I am not sure that behind ALT all numbers bigger than 256 are always supported - at least not according the ASCII code table.)

Anyway I think there is a huge garbage hill in OS with those many languages and their interpretation and decoding by different softwares.

Interesting while I was writing my response I saw correctly the Flamish character, but in the forum it is already not decoded properly:

å

Post by **jparnold** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:44 am

Thanks Svuppe,
using Notepad I was able to create the correct characters and then cut and paste into VS.
Strange though that it is possible to create the correct characters for TITLES using ALT etc but not when adding text for the menu thumbnails.
Thanks for your help.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:18 am

John -- as I just said above, on my computer at least, which I did not set up especially for any language apart from English, I can successfully use all the Western European, Nordic and other symbols, INCLUDING in menu text.

Post by **jparnold** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:33 am

Ken.
Well "blow me down" I just tried again and now it does allow me to create special characters using the ALT key for chapter points. I don't know what I was doing before but I was sure that I was holding the ALT key down as I typed the numeric values and I had successfully created the special characters for titles within my movie.

As suggested by another member I had resorted to creating the characters in Notepad and then cut and paste but now I find I can do it direct.

I don't quite understand other members posts which mention å
Anyway ALT works.

Thanks for your reply

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:37 pm

&aring is the letter å -- i.e. 'a ring' (or 'a with a ring over it')... or at least, that is how it comes out when Alt+0229 doesn't work...

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:15 pm

Just to throw my 2¢ (that was Alt+155) in. In the past I used special Alt characters when I updated our website at work, so I know they worked from this computer. But when I try to use them on this forum it (obviously) doesn't work. They do work in VS though.

Ken must have a magic pooter.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:06 pm

In fact, at least two -- one (the one in my system info below) running XP Pro, and the new one which I use for this Board, running Vista Home Premium. And neither with any special adjustments that I am aware of for language. The only language adjustment I made on any of my computers is with Word for Windows, which I set up to be able to deal with English, French, Spanish, Portuguese and, on one of the computers, Russian (my languages...!) Yet I have no trouble at all with the special accent marks for any of the European languages in this Board or in Video Studio...

Post by **jparnold** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:06 pm

I don't have any problems entering special characters in this forum using the ALT key using either one of my two PCs at home eg å ò æ
I have XP Home installed on one PC and XP PRO on the other and installed both with no special character sets (just took the defaults during installation except for selecting Australian English for keyboard etc.).

weaver · Post by **weaver** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:56 am

jparnold wrote:I don't have any problems entering special characters in this forum using the ALT key using either one of my two PCs at home eg å ò æ
I have XP Home installed on one PC and XP PRO on the other and installed both with no special character sets (just took the defaults during installation except for selecting Australian English for keyboard etc.).

It is very interesting, I can also enter even your charcters without any problem on my all my PCs, but some of them are not arriving properly to this forum (I see them always correct on my own displays when I enter them:

ALT 0229 å
ALT 0226 â
ALT 0189 ½

etc.

Somewhere between my computer and the server this charcters go corrupt.
AÖready when I hit the preview button the characters are corrupt in both windows in EDIT and also in PREVIEW windows. Before the character where correct in the edit window.

weaver · Post by **weaver** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:57 am

The same enter without the previous PREVIEW check:

ALT 0229 å
ALT 0226 â
ALT 0189 ½

weaver · Post by **weaver** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:13 am

weaver wrote:Even this WEB forum does not support those foreign characters:

čšťžľ
негуштвы

Just a short test for myself.

Now I enter these characters from the same computer.
нагвры
ščťžýá

Svuppe · Post by **Svuppe** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:28 pm

I have an interesting observation (with regards to the character problem in VS, not this forum).
As you know, I can't enter danish characters in Titles in VS11 (if we forget my modified font for a minute). Neither directly with my danish keyboard, nor with ALT 0229 (and other numbers). Changing to a german keyboard layout allows me to enter the special german characters directly as if I had a german keyboard. But ALT nnnn still doesn't work.

Now for the news: If I select a US english keyboard layout, I am suddenly able to use ALT 0229 etc and get my danish characters. Weird huh?

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:54 am

Yes it's getting wierder by the minute, especially those tests by weaver