Long titles -> VS11Plus runs slow?

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Long titles -> VS11Plus runs slow?

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To whom it may concern,
I just upgraded from version 8 to version 11 Plus.

I've been creating informative titles to prefix chapters and movies, maybe a few paragraphs or so, to explain what people are looking at etc.

Under version 8, I would type it up, then just ask the program to share a video, with no noticeable problems.

Under version 11 though, as I get to maybe 2 or more paragraphs, the program starts to slow down. It gets to the stage I can type out a few sentences, then have to wait seconds for each letter to eventually appear.

Do other people find this? Is there a patch or workaround?

Kind regards
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Perhaps you could type the text into Windows Notepad and then copy/paste it rather than type it in?
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Post by Ron P. »

I don't normally use this sort of title, I use the Multiple titles. So I tried and found the same, that VS11+ starts slowing way down. However I was doing this in my normal hardware profile, which has numerous processes running in the background. I'll have to try this in my editing profile to see if I get the same results.

Steve's suggestion is a good workaround for this.
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Workaround is good

Post by HomeMovies »

Thank you both for comments on the workaround.

I've saved some default comments, giving me the approximate width of the
VS11Plus screen etc.

Copy and paste is quick.

But it is a curious issue. If it's just text, why does it take so long for
VS11Plus to work out how to display it, as opposed to what VS8 did?
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Post by Ron P. »

I ran a test in VS11+ and VS8 in my editing profile. You're correct, that VS8 has no slow down when typing several paragraphs, and VS11+ does. I have no idea why this is happening.
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Error?

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Thanks Vidoman.

Should I try to raise a problem with technical support or will they pick it up from this forum?

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Post by Ron P. »

Try to raise a support issue, as they don't appear very often on the forums.
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Thank you

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Thanks guys.

Raised a problem with tech support. I'll try to post their response later.
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Post by Ron P. »

I also posted a Support Claim with them. Also FYI, I tested this not only with VS8, but 9 and 10+. None of the earlier versions have this slow down.
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:)

Post by HomeMovies »

Many thanks again Ron, and also for the test results. So it's definitely something that was introduced in v11+

I also looked at the project file sizes. Projects handling maybe 5-7 movies and 5-7 images, with transitions and perhaps separate audio tracks, can be 20-50k.

A project with one black movie (10sec) one title (about 100-400 characters), and one audio track can be 100-150k.

It's almost as if each character in the title is adding 1 kb ... when it should be about 1000 characters to the kb ...
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Post by Ron P. »

Today I received the following reply from Corel Customer Service.
Response (R. Masiclat) - 06/28/2007 03:09 AM
Dear Ron,

Thank you for contacting Corel Customer Support Services.

I have simulated the problem and it does happen in VideoStudio 11. VideoStudio 10 does not seem to have the same problem, as with the older versions. I will send a report to our development team. Hopefully it will be included in the upcoming patch. Thanks Ron.

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Thanks :) Your response was better

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They responded to me, but suggested I pay them to get it fixed ... :(

Is it the usual response to people who just bought an upgrade, to ask them to pay more to get things fixed?

Then they include links to the knowledge base (there was no knowledge base for v11 when I raised this ... and I checked it anyways) and links to the forum (I already said I discussed this in the forum).

Lastly, they included a link on how to uninstall the program!

Is this their usual response to people raising problems with the software?

(I was polite at the time; I'm annoyed now)

*very disappointed*



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oops :(

Post by HomeMovies »

Thought I'd erased her name from the email before publishing it.

Missed an occurrence of her name.
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Got a reply

Post by HomeMovies »

Got a better reply, though not a solution.

This time they said that they could not reproduce the problem, and so could not call it a bug.

So, why would their machine not reproduce the bug, and ours would? Especially as you tested it against several earlier versions on the same machine ...
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Post by Mr. Farknocker »

Anybody found a solution to this problem? I supercopied a long list of credits and have found it nearly impossible to edit the list because of the amount of the delay.
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