The end of Media Studio??

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Re: MSP alternative

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CaptainKen2 wrote:Sony Vegas is getting a big push here:
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/24/874432#874602

I also agree that the end of MSP is a result of poor marketing. And that Ulead's lack of denying the end of MSP is an admission to the end.
You didn't read my post here?
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any news about mediastudio Pro? dose anyone have some rumors?
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No but I have some facts.
It is discontinued.
The End.
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Post by WBuhlert »

Hallo

I send a Email to the address wich was was named in the MSP announcement to get a link for VideoStudio 11.5, but the Email failed with following message:

"This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

mediastudiopro@corel.com
SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<mediastudiopro@corel.com>:
host corel.com.s7a1.psmtp.com [64.18.6.14]: 550 No such user - psmtp"

What is the reason of this problem?
Thank you for your help.
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Post by Devil »

The special offer expired many months ago. Since then, VS 11.5 has been discontinued and replaced by VS X2/X2 Pro.

Sorry, but you will have to go to one of the vv. X2
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Whilst this thread might now seem a bit old, in fact I have just re-read the entire thread with particular interest upon Virtual Computers.

My initial research (mentioned earlier in these threads) mentioned (correctly) that Vista Home premium is not a supported operating system for the purposes of Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 HOWEVER I am very happy to say that I ignored the message that pops up during installation to tell you it is not a supported system and carried on regardless. It installs and runs perfectly. You get the same message box pop up the first time you create a virtual machine - once again ignore it and also tick the box "Don't show this message again."

No problems running Virtual PC on Vista Home Premium - it might be due to the installation of Service pack 1 that it now works. I recall reading that somewhere. You also have an alternative Virtual Machine Program which I consider is more powerful than the one provided by Microsoft. Virtual Box This one is also free and has more settings that you can set yourself than the one from Microsoft. It will also open a "Virtual Hard Drive" created in the other one (Virtual PC) and can even accept "Physical Hard Drives".

(In fact I am writing this post from within a Virtual machine Right now)

I tend to use Virtual PC (Microsoft) for the Microsoft range of operating systems - Windows 3.11 (Windows for Workgroups) - Windows 95B, Windows 98SE - Windows ME - Windows 2000 - XP - NT4 - Even a second copy of Vista!

I tend to use Virtual Box for Non Microsoft Systems - SUSE - Knoppix - Mandriva - Ubuntu - Solaris - Fedora - Linspire - MCN - Xandros.

Regarding someone's earlier comments about licensing. Microsoft Systems will require activation (as always) and so you will obviously need the appropriate serial numbers. Microsoft do allow their systems to be run inside virtual machines - no doubt why they provide Virtual PC.

Virtual Box Screen shots

This article gives a step by step guide with screen shots and also a video.
Installing Ubuntu as a virtual machine

Whilst that shows how to install a Linux system, you do much the same sort of thing to install Windows XP. Once you have XP available you can now install MediaStudio and any other programs that just don't gel with Vista. I must say I was quite surprised with the results - Turn on "Full Screen Mode" and if someone walked into your room and sat at your computer, they wouldn't even know they were using a virtual machine.

MORE IMPORTANTLY.
If you either wipe your hard drive or create a dual boot system upon your computer that came pre-installed with Vista, you might have a problem finding drivers for your video and/or sound cards. This is not an issue with a virtual computer, the Virtual PC / Virtual Box Software acts as an in between and feeds to the guest operating system dummy Video/Sound and network cards. It also feeds to that guest system the necessary drivers for these Video/Sound/Network cards.

So you will get sound, a decent screen size - often the same as the Host operating system and of course you get out onto the internet.
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I have now created a Tutorial about how to install Virtual PC onto your computer.
Get ALL of your older programs to Run with Vista
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Many thanks for your efforts with this, Steve.

Best wishes,

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Post by jparnold »

I guess if if it is discontinued it is a pity for many.
However I use VideoStudio 98% of the time reverting to use MS (7VE) on occasions where MS has a feature (especially MOVING PATH) to create a small clip which I then output (DV format) to use in a project within a VS project.
I like the extra features of MS but prefer the ease of use of VS.
Does anyone know if Corel will add the Moving Path feature to VS (sorry if it already does as I only use VS9 and VS10+).
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Post by Devil »

What Corel does or does not do is a total mystery. In the days of Ulead, the Admins and Moderators of this forum were mainly on the beta testing teams for one or two of the apps. As such, we had some influence on the features included or excluded in a given software. Today, that has all changed and no one here has any real influence, except possibly Tobie Openshaw, who is a Corel employee - and I doubt whether he has much. Despite our years of experience in beta-testing (myself in MSP and WS) and our knowledge of the apps, we have been dropped from the circuit like hot bricks and held in almost as much total mystery as the ordinary guy who goes into a high-street shop and buys a copy of VS over-the-counter.

FYI, up to recently, I have used MSP almost exclusively for my NLE. I've become scared that if a problem arises, I'll be left in the lurch. As VS X2 Pro does not suit me, I've started to look elsewhere to hedge my bets. I bought one app, which I was uncomfortable with, mainly because it needed reinstalling 2x/week, but I wasn't over-keen, anyway. I now have that one up for resale on eBay, where the bidding is currently quite active! I have bought another one that I do like and am comfortable with. It is roughly on a par with MSP for ease of use and features, some being stronger and some weaker, but it iis good and stable.
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Post by scottb721 »

I realise that consumers don't always know what they really need or want, who are they listening too if they aren't listening to some of the knowledgeable people here who have been involved previously ????
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Devil wrote: FYI, up to recently, I have used MSP almost exclusively for my NLE. I've become scared that if a problem arises, I'll be left in the lurch. As VS X2 Pro does not suit me, I've started to look elsewhere to hedge my bets. I bought one app, which I was uncomfortable with, mainly because it needed reinstalling 2x/week, but I wasn't over-keen, anyway. I now have that one up for resale on eBay, where the bidding is currently quite active! I have bought another one that I do like and am comfortable with. It is roughly on a par with MSP for ease of use and features, some being stronger and some weaker, but it iis good and stable.
Hi, Devil:

I realize that you probably were just following instruction from Corel, but after the announcement of the demise of MSP, if we had been "allowed" to discuss alternatives to MSP from an MSP user's perspective, you may not have had to waste so much time and $$$ trying to find a replacement app.

In any case, I'm still using MSP and have not found a viable alternative - although I've tried a couple of low-end apps with upgrades to more "professional" versions (as a way to also hedge my bets) -but haven't found anything that suits me like the old VS to MSP upgrade path that I followed (someone expensively) a few years back.

Hopefully you'll find something that suits you - and as you're probably looking at it from the same perspective as the rest of us MSP users, perhaps you'll share your findings with us...

I also tried the VS11 that Corel sent, but it's just not up to the task or expectations that I have from my NLE, so I was not tempted at all to upgrade to VS X2.

Regards, Al
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