The end of Media Studio??

Sal` · Post by **Sal`** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:28 am

hello, i'm a newbie here in the ulead family.. i was just trying videostudio and then mediastudio. i found that mediastudio is really what i need and like to have. but then i came in the forum and saw this topic

is it true? will corel trash mediastudio?

if so, is there any valid substitute? on other forums, they say good things about sony vegas and canopus edius. which is better and more near mediastudio?

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:10 am

MSP 8 certainly does all I need at present and more. I couldn't care less right now whether or not they continue it. I need and want something that works reliably, not the latest and fanciest that might not work.

Suit yourself. As far as I'm concerned, MSP 8 gives me the best bang for the buck and will continue to that for quite a while.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:23 am

Sal` wrote:.......
is it true? will Corel trash MediaStudio?
......

While there are still XP Systems around they won't trash it, it works perfectly well on Windows XP and is so powerful it will last quite a few years yet. Obviously technology keeps moving forward and we are slowly entering the world of High Definition, HD and Blue Ray Discs. MediaStudio supports High Definition and it will be a few years yet before the winner of the HD v Blue Ray battle is announced.

The item of concern is that Microsoft have brought out their new Vista Operating system. This has the knock on effect that a visit to your local computer shop now presents you with dozens of Desktop or laptop computers to choose from and they are all pre-installed with Vista.

Whilst many of us could perhaps build a computer from the various component parts (Motherboard, Processor, RAM, Video Card, Power Supply, Case etc) there are far more who cannot and so would simply scrap their existing computer when it develops a major fault and end up with one of those Vista machines. (Or in a few years time Microsoft Vienna earmarked for a 2009 release)

MediaStudio was written for XP. It is incompatible with Vista (Or the 2 operating systems already planned to replace Vista - Vienna and Fiji) I attempted to install MediaStudio on Vista Home Premium and couldn't even get past the installer.

I suspect anyone who managed to get a copy on Vista did so by installing it on XP and then later "upgrading" that installation to Vista. I might give that a try at some future date in an attempt to see if any work rounds can be made to enable it to function - another forum member did a similar experiment with Cool 3D Production Studio and as a result that can now be used on Vista with an unofficial patch.
How to get Cool Ulead 3D to work in Vista - I have passed that 'fix' on to Corel in an attempt to knee j erk them into at least developing Cool 3DPS for Vista.

So basically - you will not be wasting your money purchasing MediaStudio if you either have an XP operating system or by installing a second hard drive on your computer and creating a multi boot system.
Dual Boot the Steve Jones Method.

Sal` · Post by **Sal`** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:48 pm

i think corel should release it as an opensource product. create a comunity around it and let some good programmers continue the development. i think that mediastudio is a real good product and it can't be quit. (even if often i got it crashing while editing the timeline)

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:27 am

It is highly unlikely they would do that. They own the copyright on the product and so they have a couple of options.

1. Persue modifications at some future date when they consider it financially worthwhile - They are a profit making organisation.
2. Sell their copyright to another developer.

It would not make sense for them to simply give away those rights.

troppo · Post by **troppo** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:06 am

or option 3. They might just shelve it indefinitely.

This would prevent their own intellectual property possibly being used in competition to their existing products.

pennstat · Post by **pennstat** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:19 am

Then what they should do is just merge MSP into VS and be done with it. Rather than deal with two paths, just merge them into one. I can't use VS in its current form. I use multiple audio and video layers in my projects as well as a number of the video filters. Quite simply, VS is not as powerful as MSP and the storyboard view is childish in comparison, thereby making it useless for me.

Maybe Ulead could take a path like Pinnacle -- merge the power and interface of MSP into VS, sell everything in one package but leave the basic stuff active, and then sell keys to release the more professional material. That way those who need basic stuff can pay for it and get it and those of us who need more powerful features can purchase what we need while still retaining the look and feel of MSP.

I don't care which way Ulead/Corel goes, frankly, but the deafening silence coming from the corporate offices regarding MSP is very rapidly pushing me to competitors' products.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:40 am

You might be interested in:
MSP 7/8: Installing on Microsoft Vista.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:51 am

pennstat wrote:Then what they should do is just merge MSP into VS and be done with it. Rather than deal with two paths, just merge them into one. I can't use VS in its current form. I use multiple audio and video layers in my projects as well as a number of the video filters. Quite simply, VS is not as powerful as MSP and the storyboard view is childish in comparison, thereby making it useless for me.

Maybe Ulead could take a path like Pinnacle -- merge the power and interface of MSP into VS, sell everything in one package but leave the basic stuff active, and then sell keys to release the more professional material. That way those who need basic stuff can pay for it and get it and those of us who need more powerful features can purchase what we need while still retaining the look and feel of MSP.

I don't care which way Ulead/Corel goes, frankly, but the deafening silence coming from the corporate offices regarding MSP is very
rapidly pushing me to competitors' products.

I for one wouldn't buy an espresso machine, with its coffee making abilities disabled, because I want hot water. Regardless of price reduction and costs to add this feature later on. It would just make the whole thing more complex than it has to be. I would just buy a kettle

It isn't that easy to merge MSP and VS and, if you think the Pinnacle way makes more sense, what's stopping you?

The majority of users on this board are using VS. If that had all the capabilities of MSP already embedded but not activated, do you really think you could buy that at the price of VS today? Keep dreaming.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:47 pm

In fairness to the suggestion this is the path that Microsoft have taken with Vista. If you purchase a Vista Setup disc then it is the same set up disc for ALL versions of Vista from Home Basic to Ultimate.

The version that is installed/activated is determined by the serial number that is input at the time of installation.

bob733 · Post by **bob733** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:01 pm

Is there an upgrade path from Videostudio 11 plus to Mediastudio 8 pro (which seems like a more powerful big brother product), and if there is, it is something I should consider (given the doom and gloom of MediaStudio potential demise?

thanks

Bob

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:33 pm

Firstly your user name - you are exposing yourself to spam by using your email address. If you wish to have it changed to something else please send me a PM with a few alternatives (in case your first choice is unavailable).

The following qualify for the upgrade price:
* Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7.0
* Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7.0 DVD Edition
* Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7.0 Video Edition*
* Ulead MediaStudio Pro 6.5
* Ulead MediaStudio 6.5 Director's Cut
* Ulead MediaStudio Pro 6.5 DVD Edition
* Ulead MediaStudio Pro 6.5 Video Edition*
* Ulead MediaStudio Pro 6.0
* Ulead MediaStudio Pro 6.0 Video Edition*

I once saw a copy of Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7.0 Video Edition given away as one of the programs on the disc that accompanied a computer magazine and so it is worth keeping your eye out for a copy.

If you are an XP User then MediaStudio in my opinion is worth the investment as it is far more powerful than VideoStudio.
It remains to be seen if Corel will provide a service pack or new version that is Vista Compliant though we have devised a work round
MSP 7/8: Installing on Microsoft Vista.

Arekwp · Post by **Arekwp** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:13 pm

Hi.
Why MediaStudioPro supported Sony XDCAM EX PWM-EX1 and FULL HD ?

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:37 pm

CaptainKen2 · Post by **CaptainKen2** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:35 am

Sony Vegas is getting a big push here:
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/24/874432#874602

I also agree that the end of MSP is a result of poor marketing. And that Ulead's lack of denying the end of MSP is an admission to the end.

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