Export of DVD to AVI file just dies in middle

photostb · Post by **photostb** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:34 am

I keep my video archive in DVD format. When I want to edit something, I convert to AVI file. I have been doing this using the Inport DVD/Export AVI functions of Video Factory 5.

I just upgraded to Video Factory 6 - and I now the AVI export just dies after about 14 minutes. I have tried two different DVD's. I also have tried just one VOP file and the same thing happens. There is no error message or anything - the processing does not hang - it just stops and the newly created partial AVI file just disappears.

It is pretty consistent - right around 14 minutes - have latest patches.

Thanks for any help,

photostb

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:50 am

Sorry to disappoint you but if your videos are in DVD format then although they are shown as a collection of VOB files in fact they are MPEG2.

Follow this procedure to import the DVD to MovieFactory:
from the Launch menu select Import/Capture and then Import from DVD
Now either select the [Import} button to retrieve video from a DVD in your DVD drive or [Import DVD Folder] and then navigate to a DVD that you have installed on your hard drive.

From that point the procedure is almost identical to that in VideoStudio as shown here:
importing DVD files

Those files will now be in MovieFactory in MPEG2 format and since they originated from a DVD they are DVD compliant. Nothing can be gained by converting them to another format - in fact you risk losing quality because they will later have to be converted back into MPEG2 when writing back to a DVD disc.

Do your editing in MPEG2. To reduce the risk of audio/video synchronisation problems it is my suggestion that you use straight cuts and avoid transitions when dealing with MPEG2 files.

Please also view:
Suggested workflow by sjj1805 for Video Creation - although written with the two main editing programs in mind (VideoStudio & MediaStudio) try to follow these principles when working with MovieFactory.

photostb · Post by **photostb** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:30 am

Thanks for your advice, which was very good, but this still does not excuse MF6 from not being able to complete the export of the AVI file.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:33 am

Have you tried exporting the file as MPEG2 - it is possible the file you have imported has some sneaky corruption.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:53 am

photostb wrote:Thanks for your advice, which was very good, but this still does not excuse MF6 from not being able to complete the export of the AVI file.

What sort of AVI file are we talking about? DV-AVI? mpeg4? DivX, Xvid? Uncompressed AVI? AVI is as descriptive as is the term "Bucket" when it comes to liquids. If I tell you I have a bucket full, what do I have?

photostb · Post by **photostb** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:40 pm

I am trying to export the standard DV-AVI.

Since this looks more like a "software bug" - I should probably take it off the forum and just report it to ULEAD support.

Thanks all for your responses.

Velojet · Post by **Velojet** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:24 pm

photostb wrote:When I want to edit something, I convert to AVI file.

photostb, could you please explain to us exactly why you do this conversion?

As Steve says, ''Do your editing in MPEG2. ... Nothing can be gained by converting them to another format - in fact you risk losing quality because they will later have to be converted back into MPEG2 when writing back to a DVD disc."

I'd go further - I'd say that you must inevitably lose quality by the double conversion. And you definitely do lose time as well!

So look on this problem you're having with the MF6 AVI conversion as a blessing in disguise! - it's encouraging you to change to a more efficient and effective workflow.

photostb · Post by **photostb** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:33 am

I archive all of my videos on DVD's. However, I have several videos on my webpage - which are in Quicktime format.

The workflow to get an archived video into Quicktime Format so that I can show it on my webpage has been - convert the DVD to AVI - once in AVI then use Quicktime Player Pro to convert to Quicktime file.

I realize that I can export into Quicktime directly from MovieFactory - but I felt that I got a faster conversion by using Quicktime Pro. Quicktime Pro I believe give me a larger number of conversion options and it seemed to execute faster.

No matter what - I still need to convert DVD to Quicktime. I also need to trim off some of the video. Major question is how to do this quickly.

Velojet · Post by **Velojet** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:17 am

Thanks for the fuller explanation, photostb. But ...

photostb wrote:I realize that I can export into Quicktime directly from MovieFactory - but I felt that I got a faster conversion by using Quicktime Pro. Quicktime Pro I believe give me a larger number of conversion options and it seemed to execute faster.

... surely by using DVDMF to first convert to AVI and then using QT Pro to convert that AVI file to MOV/QT, rather than directly using DVDMF to convert to MOV (as well as doing your trimming), you must be doing things slower, no matter how fast QT Pro is?

As for the relative ranges of conversion options, DVDMF offers quite a wide range of frame sizes and AV compressions for MOV files - does QT Pro really give you some additional combination that makes it worth the extra time and work involved?

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:09 am

I just upgraded to Video Factory 6 - and I now the AVI export just dies after about 14 minutes.

Whether converting or not converting the program should work and export. to dv.avi format.
Are you saying that MF5 doesn't have a problem exporting the same mpeg2 file out to dv.avi and MF6 does?
In other words MF5 works & MF6 doesn't.
Question: This is the same source mpeg2 video file correct?
I haven't exported any videos out to dv.avi yet, maybe trying dv-type2 with audio as pcm, stereo 48khz if dv type-1 is failing.
Funny, because MF5 had a problem and was splitting dv files at 4 gig until ulead released a patch.

photostb · Post by **photostb** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:01 pm

I sort of backed into the work flow that I am currently using to get to Quicktime. Usually I have a DV-AVI file before I archive to DVD. I was directly inputing that file to Quicktime. After archiving to DVD, sort of just keep that procedure but used Movie Factory re-create the DV-AVI file from the archived DVD. You are correct that I can export Quicktime directly from Movie Factory - something which I now am doing. However, I have rolled back to Movie Factory 5 until ULEAD can work on Movie Factory 6.

I am reporting the DVD to DV-AVI abort to Ulead Support - since this occurs almost exactly at 14+ minutes - some buffer or internal file limit must be causing this problem.

Thanks to All

Velojet · Post by **Velojet** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:03 pm

And thank you, photostb, for the further clarification of your workflow past, present and future.

And you're quite right - none of the replies here solves the basic problem that's the topic of this thread. I can only hope that the Ulead tech people take note of your report - your suggestion of some buffer or internal file limit certainly sounds plausible.

And just quietly, I'm still using DVDMF5 here myself.

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