Corel Web Site Now Features DVD WORKSHOP 2

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http://tinyurl.com/2jld3g
"Many features and functionality of MediaStudio Pro and DVD Workshop are being rolled into the consumer products [DVD MovieFactory and VideoStudio], making them more powerful, but still easy to use," said Tobie Openshaw, a product manager at Corel. According to Openshaw, MediaStudio Pro and DVD Workshop would be discontinued in the near future, but did not give a date.
That appears to be the end of two great products.

I'm so sad to read this.

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Jerry,
I know you are a journalist and this is not a knock at you but......
From my experience as a Police Officer who has attended various incidents and then read about them in the newspaper I had to ask myself several times if the incident I had previously attended was the same one being reported in the news.

You cannot believe everything that gets written. Things get twisted turned and buttered up.

I recall whilst at school we heard a story about a General in a war in the days before radio. They relied upon messengers on horseback.
he told the first messenger to pass on a message "Send reinforcements we are going to advance" The first messenger had to pass this onto to a second who would pass it onto a third etc.

At the other end of the line the message now read
"Send four and sixpence we're going to a dance."

Firstly I would be very surprised if anyone in a management position at any profit making company would boldly announce "We are discontinuing this product"
Instead they have two options.
1. Sit on their copyright so that at some time in the future they can resurrect the product in the light of the ever changing circumstances and state of the market.
2. Sell. They can offer the copyright to someone else - perhaps the highest bidder.

If Corel have decided to shelve (not discontinue) the products it is because they are making a loss. They have to take into account development costs against anticipated profit margins.

I for one will be taking that report with a pinch of salt.
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Post by heinz-oz »

Jerry Jones wrote:http://tinyurl.com/2jld3g
"Many features and functionality of MediaStudio Pro and DVD Workshop are being rolled into the consumer products [DVD MovieFactory and VideoStudio], making them more powerful, but still easy to use," said Tobie Openshaw, a product manager at Corel. According to Openshaw, MediaStudio Pro and DVD Workshop would be discontinued in the near future, but did not give a date.
That appears to be the end of two great products.

I'm so sad to read this.

Jerry Jones
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Yeah, you are sooooo sad, you can't wait to find another thread to splash your comments across. If you are so sad to read this, why write it again and again? It's bleeding obvious that you must have some personal reason for your actions. How, again, did that involvement of yours with ULEAD end????
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Heinz-Oz:

To answer your question below:

It ended with one of the former owners of Ulead promising me a positive recommendation for my next employer; we parted friends.

A few months afterward, the entire company was sold, which tells me those plans were probably being made even as my contract was coming to an end.

Actually, I was happy the job ended because it meant not having to endure annoying behavior from individuals who write the kind of comment you just did.

My intent in posting the news report was only to solicit confirmation and/or denial from individuals who may work for the new owner (Corel) and who might have some inside knowledge about the substance of the news report.

I'd like to know what's in store as I plan for my future software purchases one year in advance.

By the way, Corel has restored live links to the DVD Workshop 2 product:

http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/ ... 1657926979

But -- so far -- nobody with the company has responded to the news report.

So, for now, the future of these products remains unknown to all but those who work for Corel.

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heinz-oz wrote:Yeah, you are sooooo sad, you can't wait to find another thread to splash your comments across. If you are so sad to read this, why write it again and again? It's bleeding obvious that you must have some personal reason for your actions. How, again, did that involvement of yours with ULEAD end????
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In addition to the restored link to DVD Workshop you will also notice the restored link to MediaStudio Pro
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/ ... 1657926967

Now then lets look at all the collateral damage being done here.
Firstly as I have stated previously IF Corel have decided to place future developments on hold then the only thing being achieved by scaremongering on this and other similar forums is to drive people away from these products.

So the people who are hoping for the products to be developed are inflicting self harm upon themselves by this constant attack. Ulead, Corel or Intervideo staff do NOT routinely monitor these forums. In fact they appear to have handed over effective control of the forum to George, Ron and Myself.

Neither one of us are in any way associated with the Software Company.
In short, these constant attacks are a waste of time. This forum is a place where users can discuss problems they are having in the use of the software and even seek advice regarding problems with their computer in general which prevents an application from working as designed.

It is a place where users can exchange ideas - such as the "Members Samples Forum". They can throw in suggestions for filming or photo editing techniques and so on using the software that we have.

What this forum is all about is how to make the best of what we have got.
There is an old saying "It's not how big it is it's what you do with it that counts."

A few years ago the Police Force sent me on a Customer Service Course at a Technical College. On this course it was pointed out that
1. If someone receives good service they tend not to tell anyone or if they do only to a small number of people.
2. If someone receives what they perceive to be bad service then they try to tell the world.

Guys - and Gals, No one from the Company is listening so stop harping on and driving away other potential customers. Remember that if Corel have a tight budget then things that are not selling that well will have to be shelved. That is economical sense.

Now do something positive - start selling the good things about these products and then maybe more people will want to buy rather than shy.
The more that buy, the more money that Corel will have to invest in developing these other products.

Enough of the half empty glass attitude - it is now time to see that glass as half full.
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Post by jday »

I'm truly a "glass half-full" type guy, but the problem I see in this situation is that there are many people out there (me included) who are, right now, in the market for a NLE (either new or upgrade). In such a case, would it be smart to spend the money on MSP if you don't know it's going to be continued to needed features added? I don't think so.

I'm avoiding upgrading from XP to Vista as long as possible, but I know the day is coming that that will be necessary and then I will need a NLE that is Vista compatible. Of course, other updated NLEs already have other features that MSP is lacking. Don't get me wrong, I've been using MSP for several years and am a big fan and never, in the past, considered switching NLEs, but I can not in good conscience recommend buying MSP to any of my friends (at this time) not knowing if it's a "dead" program. Before anyone gets excited about my use of the word "dead", I don't mean the program can no longer be used or isn't a very good NLE, but simply that it will not grow as editing needs change. That said, until I hear something positive (and official) from the company, I will steer my friends to other programs (although I'm still using MSP 8).

I sincerely hope that someone from Ulead/InterVideo/etc would make an official announcement, one way or the other. The only other thing I will say is that in my experience this type of silence is not a good thing. The reason being is that if Ulead comes right out and says they will no longer update MSP then they would lose virtually all future sales (even though it's still a viable program). That being the case, you would think it would be smart to at least say that MSP will continue to be developed. I'm not even asking for specifics such as what new features will be added or when to expect the next version--just an acknowledgement that there will BE a next version.
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Post by jday »

In reference to my above [ost, I wanted to edit it after I realized I posted it in the DVD Workshop forum (and not the MSP forum). I had been reading both and actually, my comments can apply to both programs. I do currently use both programs.
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Post by dmz »

I actually just bought WS2 for fear of it disappearing. I really like VS for editing and was desperate for a reasonably priced authoring program. I looked at a non ulead alternative which was hailed as one of the best and didnt like it. I found WS for its intuitive feel and particularly its start from scratch and playlist features great. I figure its going to be a couple of years before I leave XP, VS, and WS2. Its strange that there is so little competition in this market space for reasonably priced user friendly products. They are either way to geeky (like TMP something or other) or lacking significant features.
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