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Post by Fortsand »

I am new to the board and fairly new to editing video.
I have VS10 and I am in the process of getting all my old home movies on 8mm film to DVD. I had already transferred them to VHS several years ago. I have a Sony DCR-HC40 video camera. My DVD burner is a Sony DRU-830A. I put together a video and when I got ready to burn it, I learned that it was too long for a 4.7GB DVD. I needed a dual layer DVD for this project. I didn't know that they were so expensive, so I just purchased a 3 pack. I got everything set up and started the burn. The video was 1 hour and 27 minutes. It took almost 7 hours for this burn.
Is this normal? Thanks.
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Post by heinz-oz »

Hi Fortsand and welcome to the forum.

It shouldn't take that long. I guess your video was not DVD compliant when you went to burn it to DVD. Coming from VHS, your 1 h 27 min video, at the correct settings, should have easily fitted to a standard SL DVD.

What were your capture settings, project settings and settings for the final render? Did you create a video file (mpeg2) first or did you go straight from your time line to the burning stage?

Have a look at this subject to give you some hints http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=20224
FRance

Post by FRance »

This is quite normal. Rendering a video clip into a better format takes a lot of time (specially to dvd or dv formats) But you should also consider your machine's specifications. The processor, RAM, OS condition, HDrive, video file types and duration, and burner. All these have to be consider in the overall performance of your software.

Some pc will render and burn dvd movies for about 3 hours, some for about 12 hours.

Also try to eliminate unecessary apps running in the background when you are trying to burn your project. DVD creation really requires a lot of resources. (Press ctrl+alt+del to open your task manager > eliminate unecessary operations).

Hope this would help. =D
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Post by Black Lab »

I agree with Heinz (sorry FRance :wink: ), if your project is DVD compliant it should not take much longer than the project itself. Seven hours hints (very strongly) that something is wrong.

The link to the Suggested Workflow that Heinz provided should give you some good insight on what needs to be done.
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Post by sjj1805 »

The first thing we need to look at is your camcorder - Your PC is up to the job.

Sony DCR-HC40 Camcorder Review so that we can establish the type of camcorder we are dealing with, what storage format it utilises and method(s) of transfer available to the PC.

Happily I note that your camcorder is equipped with a firewire (IEEE1394) port and this is considered the best means of transferring your video to the PC.

The next item I read caused me concern:
Next to the lever is the Sony Memory card slot, which is rated up to 512megs: that's over 1000 stills and over an hour of 320 x 240 MPEG video.
Fortunately I found a further review here:
Sony DCR-HC40
It does have an improved MPEG movie function that can record 320 x 240-pixel clips to the capacity of its MemoryStick Duo card (8MB supplied). These clips are jerky and no match for some digital camera movies, let alone the superb 520-line footage the ¡¦corder lays down on MiniDV tape. Stereo sound quality is great too, with virtually no audible interference from the swift zoom or tape motor.
So in brief you have a MiniDV Camcorder with a firewire connection.
This is however academic with your current problem as you appear to be using the camcorder as a 'pass through' device which is converting your VHS tape from analogue to digital.

I need you to confirm is that you connected the camcorder to the PC with a firewire cable and then captured to your PC in DV (avi) format and NOT in MPEG2.

The file on your PC should have an avi file extension and should be about 13GB per hour.

You then edit this file by removing unwanted material, re-arranging clips and joining them together with transitions etc. from this you should go to the [share] tab and select [Create video file]

Here you have a list of formats to choose from, you now need to convert to a DVD compliant MPEG2 format. Although there are some pre-set formats such as PAL DVD (4.3) PAL DVD(16.9) - or depending upon the part of the world you are in NTSC DVD (4.3) NTSC DVD(16.9) - you cannot be sure that those will create a file that will fit.

So here you can either use a bit rate calculator or look at this list of suggested settings and select the Custom Option.

Render times will vary dependant upon
1. The power of the PC
2. The amount of editing involved - the more titles, picture in picture effects, transitions etc. will increase the render time.

It is normal for a video to take between 1.5 and 3 times the duration of the video. So a Video lasting one and half hours may take between 135 minutes and 270 minutes.

To eliminate unwanted programs and processes running in the background you could create a Video editing Profile or you could use an application such as EndItAll
BrianCee

Post by BrianCee »

And you should have no trouble at all getting a 1 hour 27 minute video on a standard single layer DVD - just a matter of choosing the correct setting.


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Post by Fortsand »

I really appreciate everyone's help. Yes, I am using firewire to capture.
I did try to burn it directly from the time line, but I kept getting a "unspecified error" message. I sent an e-mail to Ulead for help and the response went into a spill about bitrate. I never could locate the screen they suggested to set bitrate. I went back and looked at the tutorial, then I did create a video file. The project was originally set for MPEG, but I changed to AVI files. I still don't know what I did so that I didn't get the "unspecified error" anymore. I've got this one done, but I am going to check out this bitrate thingy before I try to burn another one. Thanks a lot guys.
FRance

Post by FRance »

Hi

I just want to know if your problem is related to this:

http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=24030
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Post by Fortsand »

Yes, but I was originally trying to burn straight from the time line. I had looked at all the tutorial except the burn to DVD chapter. I thought I already knew enough about that, turns out there was a lot of good info in that chapter. It helped me get it done, but I feel I still have a lot to learn.
Thanks.
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