Importing Recorder DVD
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rendez2k
Importing Recorder DVD
I have just tried importing a DVD created in my standalone SOny DVD recorder. The video has chapter points every 6 mins. However, after importing, DW2 has split each 6 min chunk into a seperate title. Is there anyway around this?
No
No way around this using DVD WS 2.x -- it breaks it up at each chapter point. You could record without inserting chapter points -- then DWS will import as one long title.
DVD MF 4.0 DC has just been released, and it has a new option of importing one long title, or separate titles at chapter points -- so perhaps this feature will be included in future versions of DVD WS...
DVD MF 4.0 DC has just been released, and it has a new option of importing one long title, or separate titles at chapter points -- so perhaps this feature will be included in future versions of DVD WS...
George
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maddrummer3301
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Hi,
There is a workaround to this with the present version of WS2.
The disk must be recorded in the -VR mode (DVD-RW).
This method doesn't matter how many chapters are on the dvd.
This is in reference to using the -VR format (DVD-RW).
If you created a DVD-R then like George says your stuck
UNLESS you try the new MF4 (read on).
1. - An mpeg2 file is created on a dvd whenever you start a
recording and terminate it. Dvd recorders DO NOT JOIN
mpeg2 files. If you start & stop a dvd recorder/camcorder
everytime you do so creates a separate mpeg2 file.
You can TRIM the beginning or cut the end a still keep the file as
one mpeg2 file on the dvd. You can't split it or cut a section out
or then you will have 2 mpeg2 files whenever you cut.
2. - If you record at SD mode for 2 hours non-stop there will be
one large 4+gig file on the dvd. If you import that into ulead's products
they will be broken into chapters or scenes.
3. - To import the complete mpeg2 file from the dvd (-VR mode)
simply create a "Playlist" on the Sony recorder. Mark the beginning and
ending as one SCENE. Then import that SCENE.
The more scenes you make then each one will be imported as a
separate mpeg2 file.
When you import the playlist select "Playlist1" not "ALL".
You can make many playlists on the recorder and import them.
So whatever you mark as a "SCENE" will be imported separately.
On many units this is the method that MUST be used because an
error will be generated trying to copy a file larger than 2 gig's from
a UDF file system (DVD) to the joilet/iso file system on a harddisk.
I've found this to be especially true with DVD-RAM disks. Maybe
it's a limitation of my DVD-RAM reader in the computer.
Creating a "Playlist" on the Sony recorders is tricky.
Definitely read the manual.
Panasonic recorders are easier.
4. - If you are importing a dvd-r (which isn't the -VR format)
MF4 can now import the complete video or chapters/scenes.
Download a trial version and check it out. I've imported a few
4+gig dvd's created on sony and other dvd recorders no problem.
Expect Ulead to put this new feature in any new releases of their software.
If they put the enhancements that are in MF4 in WS2 then WS2 will be able
to export mpeg2 direct from the timeline.
Hope this helps,
MD
There is a workaround to this with the present version of WS2.
The disk must be recorded in the -VR mode (DVD-RW).
This method doesn't matter how many chapters are on the dvd.
This is in reference to using the -VR format (DVD-RW).
If you created a DVD-R then like George says your stuck
UNLESS you try the new MF4 (read on).
1. - An mpeg2 file is created on a dvd whenever you start a
recording and terminate it. Dvd recorders DO NOT JOIN
mpeg2 files. If you start & stop a dvd recorder/camcorder
everytime you do so creates a separate mpeg2 file.
You can TRIM the beginning or cut the end a still keep the file as
one mpeg2 file on the dvd. You can't split it or cut a section out
or then you will have 2 mpeg2 files whenever you cut.
2. - If you record at SD mode for 2 hours non-stop there will be
one large 4+gig file on the dvd. If you import that into ulead's products
they will be broken into chapters or scenes.
3. - To import the complete mpeg2 file from the dvd (-VR mode)
simply create a "Playlist" on the Sony recorder. Mark the beginning and
ending as one SCENE. Then import that SCENE.
The more scenes you make then each one will be imported as a
separate mpeg2 file.
When you import the playlist select "Playlist1" not "ALL".
You can make many playlists on the recorder and import them.
So whatever you mark as a "SCENE" will be imported separately.
On many units this is the method that MUST be used because an
error will be generated trying to copy a file larger than 2 gig's from
a UDF file system (DVD) to the joilet/iso file system on a harddisk.
I've found this to be especially true with DVD-RAM disks. Maybe
it's a limitation of my DVD-RAM reader in the computer.
Creating a "Playlist" on the Sony recorders is tricky.
Definitely read the manual.
Panasonic recorders are easier.
4. - If you are importing a dvd-r (which isn't the -VR format)
MF4 can now import the complete video or chapters/scenes.
Download a trial version and check it out. I've imported a few
4+gig dvd's created on sony and other dvd recorders no problem.
Expect Ulead to put this new feature in any new releases of their software.
If they put the enhancements that are in MF4 in WS2 then WS2 will be able
to export mpeg2 direct from the timeline.
Hope this helps,
MD
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rendez2k
Thanks for your help guys. I have so far managed to use TMPGEnc DVD Author to import the DVD, which is then saved out as one large MPEG file (DW2 has much better menu creation features). I then imported this into DW2 and added 3 chapter points and then created a menu with a link to each chapter point. However, I want to go back to the menu after for instance playing chapter 1, and not go to chapter 2 (i will add a play all link), but it always continues to chapter 2. Do my playlist settings look correct?
http://www.redwards2k.plus.com/ulead.jpg
Also, on an off-topic, is there an option to snap items to the grid, and also is it possible to rotate text?
http://www.redwards2k.plus.com/ulead.jpg
Also, on an off-topic, is there an option to snap items to the grid, and also is it possible to rotate text?
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bluesman
You can, but not in DWS2
It is valid to have the ability to play a single chapter and return to a menu. You just can't do this in DVDWS (or alot of other DVD Authoring programs).DVDDoug wrote:You can't go back to the menu at the end of a chapter. You can only go back at the end of a title....I want to go back to the menu after for instance playing chapter 1...
I think this is a limitation of the DVD standard, but I'm not sure. It may just be Workshop limitation.
Some packages will also give you the ability to create chapter playlists (so you can play any chapter in any order).
George
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TheodeKlerk
A much quicker way of getting your DVD recorder title as a single title is to use a freeware tools such as SmartRipper (see www.doom9.org) to pull off your title. It will result in a .VOB file (rename it to .MPG to become usuable in DWS 2).
If you select streaming mode (default) it will have all audio tracks in the one MPG file in case you have multiple audio.
This each-chapter-becomes-a-title is a nuisance of DWS. They do produce correct DVD images with titles and chapters but are incapable sofar to do the reverse. "Will be solved in a next release" they keep saying. So far it hasn't happened. But SmartRipper can help out.
Theo
If you select streaming mode (default) it will have all audio tracks in the one MPG file in case you have multiple audio.
This each-chapter-becomes-a-title is a nuisance of DWS. They do produce correct DVD images with titles and chapters but are incapable sofar to do the reverse. "Will be solved in a next release" they keep saying. So far it hasn't happened. But SmartRipper can help out.
Theo
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Number9
Hi all,TheodeKlerk wrote:A much quicker way of getting your DVD recorder title as a single title is to use a freeware tools such as SmartRipper (see www.doom9.org) to pull off your title. It will result in a .VOB file (rename it to .MPG to become usuable in DWS 2).
If you select streaming mode (default) it will have all audio tracks in the one MPG file in case you have multiple audio.
This each-chapter-becomes-a-title is a nuisance of DWS. They do produce correct DVD images with titles and chapters but are incapable sofar to do the reverse. "Will be solved in a next release" they keep saying. So far it hasn't happened. But SmartRipper can help out.
Theo
Just got DVDWS2 and been playing around with it this weekend - trying to turn my standalone discs (from a Phillips DVD+R Recorder) into proper DVDs and it's not as easy as it at first seems.
As mentioned above, if your standalone title has chapter points in it, it breaks each one up into a different title - and even if it doesn't have chapter points in it, it breaks it up into equal chunks anyway for no good reason.
I've tried DVD Decrypter and SmartRipper to try and get a single MPG, M2V or VOB file from my standalone title, but evey time it splits it up into several files according to the VOB files on the original standalone disc. Any ideas?
I managed to solve this by downloading the trial version of TMPGEnc MPEG Editor and using that to merge my M2Vs or MPGs into one MPEG-2 file, but if there's a way to continue merging these files, or getting them all in one MPEG in the first place, without paying $40 for the full version, that would be great.
Also - once I merged the files, they had no sound! So back I had to go to DVD Decyrpter to strip out the AC3 file from the original standalone disc, and then set that as the soundtrack to the title in DVDWS.
I must be making this too hard for myself, no?!
James
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Number9
Hi phd, thanks for your reply.phd wrote:Try using DVD Decrypter in IFO mode. Make sure to change the setting to extract it as 1 big VOB so they are all combined (providing you have an NTFS file system.) Then rename the .VOB to .MPG and import as an MPEG video rather than as a DVD and there will be no breaks for chapter points.
I've been using DVD Decrypter in file mode, which is demuxing the VOB files into separate M2V and AC3 streams - I will try tonight to use the IFO mode and see how that goes.
Thanks again for your help!
Another question - if I do that, and my original standalone DVD has two titles in it which I actually want as two separate titles on my finished DVD, how can I separate the one big title which I will get from following the advice above, into two titles, to which I can then add sensible chapter points?
Cheers
James
Select a single PGC. Those are the separate titles on the video and save each one to a separate folder on your hard drive.
Please note on my Philips DVD recorder, the PGC files are generally listed twice. So if you have 2 recordings on the disk you will see 4. (Actually 6 because there is a "dummy" PGC as a placeholder for the unrecorded space on the disk.) Ignore the repeats.
Please note on my Philips DVD recorder, the PGC files are generally listed twice. So if you have 2 recordings on the disk you will see 4. (Actually 6 because there is a "dummy" PGC as a placeholder for the unrecorded space on the disk.) Ignore the repeats.
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Number9
Thanks a million - works a treat!
Turns out I had DVD Decrypter set to split files at 1GB - turn that off and you can happily get each title in one single MPEG.
Superb.
I noticed what you're saying about the multiple PGCs for the same title - I wonder why it does that, very odd. I actually had a disc I created once on the standalone that listed all the PGCs twice, and for some reason all my software thought that there was 8GB on the disc and refused to copy it to another disc. Annoying!
Thanks again phd.
James
Turns out I had DVD Decrypter set to split files at 1GB - turn that off and you can happily get each title in one single MPEG.
Superb.
I noticed what you're saying about the multiple PGCs for the same title - I wonder why it does that, very odd. I actually had a disc I created once on the standalone that listed all the PGCs twice, and for some reason all my software thought that there was 8GB on the disc and refused to copy it to another disc. Annoying!
Thanks again phd.
James