VideoStudio 11+ Problems with Audio in Capture

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I decided to try capturing something in VideoStudio 11+ for the first time since installing it early last week. I noticed some very odd behavior in it:

1) When I first go to the CAPTURE/Capture Video screen, I was inundated by a rash of static. I had to go into the Advanced Audio Playback settings in my volume control and mute "Wave" in order for it to be bearable.

2) When I try to go to set the Audio Source and Audio Input Source in Capture Options, as I did in past versions of VideoStudio, I find that the Audio Source is set to PCI AUDIO and can't be changed, with the Input Source greyed out. (In VS 10+, I selected my RealTek sound card as the Audio Source and Line In as the input source).

3) I checked in my audio recording properties from the Volume Control in Windows and made sure "Line In" is selected and then tried to capture something. I can cpature video fine, but it has no sound.

4) When I leave the CAPTURE tab to go to another tab (like EDIT or AUDIO), I can still hear the audio from my Line In connection (which has the audio feed to my capture card) on my speakers and it stays, even after I close VS 11+, until I go into another app like VS10+ (which still works fine) or the capture utility that came with my ALL IN WONDER card.

Any ideas? Unfortunately, Ulead's site has little or no documentation on VideoStudio 11+.

[etech6355]

Many of the newer capture software now routes the audio into the pci bus.
This was the case with my ATI capture card after I installed one of the latest catalyst drivers, I actually prefer the older drivers. I think many of ATI's new drivers are for the hardware based capture cards now where the audio is imbedded in the captured file.
In both of my analog capture cards I don't need this jumper between the pci capture card and the soundcard using the new up to date software drivers for those capture cards.
Using these new drivers you select WAV as the recording input. You may have to mute the input that has an audio jump connector from the capture card to the input of your soundcard. Also, if your soundcard has a "Monitor while recording feature" you probably have to disable it or you will get and capture out of sync audio (because this feature also routes the audio to the wav channel, but it's out of time with the PCI Bus audio).
On my analog capture card I use to have to install the audio jumper to link the audio from the capture device to the soundcard. With the new drivers if I use the audio cable I get reflected audio (2 audio channels out of phase).

If VS10 works and VS11 doesn't (VS11 appears to be using a different capturing setup) and your getting static maybe it's the catalyst drivers. Although if VS10 works and if your able to capture using the ATI software I wouldn't leave it be and use the ATI software to capture with. You can make a dvd compliant file capturing with the ati software and import the video into any video editing program.

My opinion of leaving the ati drivers be is your decision, I have trouble with my older ati cards running the new ati software. Upgrading the catalyst drivers sometimes didn't go very easy.
But I create templates in the ATI recording software and capture using the ATI software, seems to work a lot better for capturing.

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Many of the newer capture software now routes the audio into the pci bus.
This was the case with my ATI capture card after I installed one of the latest catalyst drivers, I actually prefer the older drivers. I think many of ATI's new drivers are for the hardware based capture cards now where the audio is imbedded in the captured file.

Actually, my ALL IN WONDER card, although it's a 9600 for all intents and purposes based on the chipset on the card, is actually the one that ATI marketed in in 2006 as the ALL IN WONDER 2006 EDITION. It's basically the 9600 except with more memory on the card (I believe its 256 MB whereas the original 9600 only had 128), and the drivers that come with it are indeed the Catalyst driver. I have not checked ATI's site for updated drivers, so I wonder if maybe there is a newer one since the one that came with the card.

If VS10 works and VS11 doesn't (VS11 appears to be using a different capturing setup) and your getting static maybe it's the catalyst drivers.

It must be something about how that different set-up in VS11 works with the Catalyst driver I'm currently using. Obviously, VS10 is OK with the Catalyst drivers, since I never had any problems there. One thing I noticed late last night is that after launching VS11 and going to the capture tab, when I view the Recording properties of my volume control, the selected input is switched to AUX, even though it's set to LINE IN before launching VS11. And even when I change it to LINE IN, it doesn't stick, and I suspect that's why there's no Audio on any video captured by VS11. VS11 must not like this driver.

Although if VS10 works and if your able to capture using the ATI software I wouldn't leave it be and use the ATI software to capture with. You can make a dvd compliant file capturing with the ati software and import the video into any video editing program.

I can live with that, probably, and I can even use VS10 to capture for now as well, since that still works. That should work at least in the short term, and perhaps I'll engage Ulead/Corel once they have some documentation and support info listed on their site for VS11 to pursue it further.

[etech6355]

I can live with that, probably, and I can even use VS10 to capture for now as well, since that still works. That should work at least in the short term, and perhaps I'll engage Ulead/Corel once they have some documentation and support info listed on their site for VS11 to pursue it further.

I replaced my AIW9600_Pro with a X1650 for High Definition Video. The 9600Pro was just barely (if not at all) cutting the HD playback. The X1650 works well (video only card, no capture).
I think you may be better off with the older drivers if everything is working, the newer drivers are totally different. I miss the nice analog capturing the 9600 did, seems like the older capturing yielded better video compared to the newer hardware based chipsets. I did have some problems with the latest catalyst drivers for the 9600pro, they did make big changes, you may not like the changes ATI made.

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I can live with that, probably, and I can even use VS10 to capture for now as well, since that still works. That should work at least in the short term, and perhaps I'll engage Ulead/Corel once they have some documentation and support info listed on their site for VS11 to pursue it further.

I replaced my AIW9600_Pro with a X1650 for High Definition Video. The 9600Pro was just barely (if not at all) cutting the HD playback. The X1650 works well (video only card, no capture).

My brother had suggested something similar if I continue to have problems, where I replace the AIW2006 (which like I said, is basically the 9600 with more memory) with a new, non-capture video card and add the same brand of capture card he has in the DVR he built using BeyondTV.

I think you may be better off with the older drivers if everything is working, the newer drivers are totally different. I miss the nice analog capturing the 9600 did, seems like the older capturing yielded better video compared to the newer hardware based chipsets. I did have some problems with the latest catalyst drivers for the 9600pro, they did make big changes, you may not like the changes ATI made.

I wound up trying the new drivers and then uninstalling them, since the capture didn't seem to work right. I think it had to do with the new drivers needing .NET 2.0, but unlike the original Catalyst drivers that came with the card (which needed .NET 1.1), did not install the .NET component as part of the install. I also wound up reinstalling and upgrading the ATI Multimedia Center, which includes ATI's capture software, and I think I found where the problem is.

When I start up the ATI capture software, you hear a brief amount of static when it starts up before the sound clears up and comes through normally. I get the same thing in VS10 when setting it to use PCI Audio instead of pointing it to the Line In on my sound card. But VS11 doesn't seem to clear that static and keeps it there until I perform an actual capture. Interestingly, when I reinstalled the original drivers after uninstalling the new one, I tried VS11 when I had just installed the drivers and had not yet installed the ATI Multimedia Center, and VS11 worked fine. After installing ATI Multimedia Center, VS11 went back to the static. So I am wondering if something with the Multimedia Center diagrees with something in VS11, and if so, is this a Ulead/Corel problem or an ATI one.

[etech6355]

It's really an ATI problem I think.
To capture in other software you don't need to install the multi-media drivers, only the cataylst video drivers and capture drivers.

I know of some who gave up on the 9800pro and could never get the drivers working correctly with the newer software.

My preference is if you want to keep this video card installed, use the latest best driver(s) for the card and use the ATI capturing software to capture video with. When I use to capture Dvd compliant mpeg2 video my processor on a 2.8 or 3.2Ghz machine was about 18%.
I capture in the ATI software and then import the dvd compliant video into any video editing or dvd creation software.
You can import the dvd complaint videos captured on the ATI card into the burning module of VS or DVD MovieFactory and create a dvd in minutes. The video is already dvd compliant and doesn't need to be re-encoded.

I think you should learn how to make dvd compliant templates in the ATI personnal video recorder ( P=4, B=2 & GOP's=ON ) along with the dvd compliant framesizes & audio settings. The ATI capture software is really nice and you get a great video, low cpu usage, timed recordings etc.
Only my suggestion of course but to write a program that's compatible with all the other video capture cards on the market is next to impossible, and the ATI capturing software reacts differently depending on your audio card which can have pass-through or monitoring ports in it's hardware chipsets.
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