Re-encoding at Finish stage
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gifty74
Re-encoding at Finish stage
I really do not like the encoding at the Finish stage in Workshop 2. It seems like no matter what I do I cannot get a profile that will match up well enough with my source clips that it will not have to re-encode at least some of them. I wish it worked just like Movie Factory in that it just takes what clips you have, checks to make sure they're compliant for the format you want to burn, and burns them. Now, if all of the clips don't match the template it re-encodes them. Also, probably one of the most time consuming, is that if you edit the in and out point on the clip, it has to re-encode the entire clip whether it's compliant or not. Are there any ways to streamline or disable this feature? Any tips from the pros on how to deal with it?
What are the attributes?
What are the attributes of your source videos?
in DVD WS 2.x, you tell the program to re-encode or not. In the EDIT step, under the VIDEO and AUDIO tabs is the option to "Convert to Disc template". if it's "open", then you have a choice of whether or not to re-encode. If it's grayed out, then the clip is non-compliant, and must be rerendered.
I don't do much "clipping" of the videos. I tend to have exactly what will be included in the final DVD. So maybe the "clipping" causes something strange?
George
in DVD WS 2.x, you tell the program to re-encode or not. In the EDIT step, under the VIDEO and AUDIO tabs is the option to "Convert to Disc template". if it's "open", then you have a choice of whether or not to re-encode. If it's grayed out, then the clip is non-compliant, and must be rerendered.
I don't do much "clipping" of the videos. I tend to have exactly what will be included in the final DVD. So maybe the "clipping" causes something strange?
George
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gifty74
Wow, nice tip. I'm going to have to look at that tab in the edit window tonight when I get home. That will be so nice to turn that off.
All of my sources are captured through my Leadtek capture card, VHS from VCR through composite. I capture them in WinDVD and encode on the fly to 352x480, 3000kbit/sec variable bitrate, NTSC, standard dvd audio. I tried matching this up, and even found a tutorial that shows you how to enable an "Advanced" button in the template manager, giving you tons of control over the profiles (nice trick), and I still could not get a profile that wouldn't touch my clips. It might just be that edited clips need re-encoded no matter what. I mean you are removing data, so it must just have to repackage everything.
All of my sources are captured through my Leadtek capture card, VHS from VCR through composite. I capture them in WinDVD and encode on the fly to 352x480, 3000kbit/sec variable bitrate, NTSC, standard dvd audio. I tried matching this up, and even found a tutorial that shows you how to enable an "Advanced" button in the template manager, giving you tons of control over the profiles (nice trick), and I still could not get a profile that wouldn't touch my clips. It might just be that edited clips need re-encoded no matter what. I mean you are removing data, so it must just have to repackage everything.
Mpeg-1 or Mpeg-2?
Hi,
your resolution is good (Half D1) for DVD, and the bitrate is fine also. My only question is whether you are capturing mpeg-1 or mpeg-2 files. Your resolution is compliant only if it's mpeg-2.
Mpeg-1 files can't go higher than 1856kbps, and must be CBR with a SIF resolution of 352x240.
Also, what type of audio are you capturing? Perhaps what you are seeing is the audio being converted (I think the message still says it is converting the video title -- even though it's only doing the audio stream).
George
your resolution is good (Half D1) for DVD, and the bitrate is fine also. My only question is whether you are capturing mpeg-1 or mpeg-2 files. Your resolution is compliant only if it's mpeg-2.
Mpeg-1 files can't go higher than 1856kbps, and must be CBR with a SIF resolution of 352x240.
Also, what type of audio are you capturing? Perhaps what you are seeing is the audio being converted (I think the message still says it is converting the video title -- even though it's only doing the audio stream).
George
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gifty74
During the conversion phase the program actaully tells you whether its converting the video or audio. I'm pretty certain though that I'm using dvd compliant settings as its a standard profile in the capture program I'm using. Its stereo, 224bit, etc. I think I have it now though, by turning that feature off in the editor. I'm pretty sure mine are all compliant, so I'll be able to disable the encoding feature on all of them.
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gifty74
I authored another one last night, and cleared all of the check boxes to make the clips compliant to the disc template. It still analyzes each clip. In the finish stage, after I hit burn, it goes through each one saying "Converting video of blah blah blah" then switches to "Converting audio of blah blah blah". I guess it has to look at them all no matter what? Does everyone else's analyze each clip like that at the finish stage right before burning?
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snakeroo
Heyas,
I am using DVD Workshop version 1.2(with the 1.2 patch). And i don't see any Audio or Video TABS in the "edit" section.
And i can't find anywhere else where i would be able to check the compliant issue. For now i have DV AVI's in my project.
And reading thru the forums here, the consensus seems to be that creating DVD Workshop compliant MPEG2's in an outside
stand-alone MPEG encoder is the better way to go, as it will convert the AVI's to MPEG2 much faster(and better?) than DVD Workshop's
built-in encoder. I have Adobe Premeire 6.5, but i dont see where it exports to MPEG2. Same with Pinnacle Liquid 6. I also have VideoStudio 7
and that does export to MPEG2. However, it doesnt seem to allow me to set any options, just simply export to an MPEG2 format.
Also, whichever way i choose, once i have my finished project ready(ie, at the "finish" step in DVD Workshop), from what i understand, it's better to "burn" a copy(iso?) to my hard drive first. And then actualy burn that file to a DVD. But how do i do that? I dont see where you can open an iso(or "vob"??) in DVD Workshop. Seems that i am only able to open project files. I have DVD Shrink. So, would i open the iso(or "vob"??) in DVD shrink and from there burn that to the DVD? Also, if i don't use an outside decoder and i let DVD Workshop do the conversion, how long would this take. My info is as follows... 37mins of DV AVI. 3 menus with 10sec looping DV AVI motion clips for buttons and each menu uses the same 40sec DV AVI clip for the nmotion background. And also a 40sec sound clip(should this be wav or mp3? MY system is: XP, 2.6GIG P4, 512MB RAM. And yes, I have "RFM" for DVD Workshop.
Thanks
I am using DVD Workshop version 1.2(with the 1.2 patch). And i don't see any Audio or Video TABS in the "edit" section.
And i can't find anywhere else where i would be able to check the compliant issue. For now i have DV AVI's in my project.
And reading thru the forums here, the consensus seems to be that creating DVD Workshop compliant MPEG2's in an outside
stand-alone MPEG encoder is the better way to go, as it will convert the AVI's to MPEG2 much faster(and better?) than DVD Workshop's
built-in encoder. I have Adobe Premeire 6.5, but i dont see where it exports to MPEG2. Same with Pinnacle Liquid 6. I also have VideoStudio 7
and that does export to MPEG2. However, it doesnt seem to allow me to set any options, just simply export to an MPEG2 format.
Also, whichever way i choose, once i have my finished project ready(ie, at the "finish" step in DVD Workshop), from what i understand, it's better to "burn" a copy(iso?) to my hard drive first. And then actualy burn that file to a DVD. But how do i do that? I dont see where you can open an iso(or "vob"??) in DVD Workshop. Seems that i am only able to open project files. I have DVD Shrink. So, would i open the iso(or "vob"??) in DVD shrink and from there burn that to the DVD? Also, if i don't use an outside decoder and i let DVD Workshop do the conversion, how long would this take. My info is as follows... 37mins of DV AVI. 3 menus with 10sec looping DV AVI motion clips for buttons and each menu uses the same 40sec DV AVI clip for the nmotion background. And also a 40sec sound clip(should this be wav or mp3? MY system is: XP, 2.6GIG P4, 512MB RAM. And yes, I have "RFM" for DVD Workshop.
Thanks