Hi peoples,
I hope ive posted this in the right section. But anyway here goes. Ive burnt vhs video to a dvd recorder and thus transfered it to a digital format. By doing this I can now bring this dvd into my computer. I want to use ULEAD media studio to bring these files into media studio and rework them by adding a intoduction section with credits etc and a ending with names etc. How can I do this because these files are vts files and media studio does not import these, or so it seems to be.
Can anyone tell me how can you bring dvd files into the time line for editing. I wolud also like to add some special effects in the middle of what Ive transfered to DVD via my analogue camera.
Please help.
Steve
DVD editing
Sorry for not mentioning its a JVC recorder DVD recorder. Also forgive me but Im new to this site and anxious on how to do this so Im a bit eager and havnt had time to read other posts. But after reading them Ive come to the idea that the files need to be converted to mpegs.
So im getting some sort of idea but initial I had no idea what so ever and are sort of gettint the picture.
Please help a bit further
Thanks
So im getting some sort of idea but initial I had no idea what so ever and are sort of gettint the picture.
Please help a bit further
Thanks
MSPro can capture some videorecorder files eg on DVD-RAM & DVD+RW, but only the format like DVD_RTAV folder, files type .VRO . ( My panasonic recorder does these.) That is w/ the DVD writer imp/export module.
Sounds like your recorder uses different format, OK, but it should "finalize" the DVD-R/whatever, to be playable in "regular" DVD players. This will create VIDEO_TS folder and .VOB/.IFO files. This will make the DVD blank not recordable any more (although could erase if it is RW disk), but is the only way MSPro will capture.
Do this, then start mspro capture, select "DVD import" capture plugin, and to capture select the VIDEO_TS folder. You can select the titles/programs to capture, and it will create MPG files.
JVC might also have some PC program to convert the VTS into MPG, not sure.
Now you can edit MPG files (adding titles/credits, intro video, effects etc whatever) in MSPro. You should set the project settings to match the MPEG file settings, so that mspro won't re-render the unedited portions of the MPEG. Create a new MPG file w/ those settings as well, MSPro will "smart-render" and only re-encode the altered portions of your video (eg no loss of quality/fast edit.)
Now use DVD authoring program (built in to mspro, or your own), and you can create a new DVD with menus/chapters etc for the MPG files.
for the rest, check more on the program manuals etc.
Sounds like your recorder uses different format, OK, but it should "finalize" the DVD-R/whatever, to be playable in "regular" DVD players. This will create VIDEO_TS folder and .VOB/.IFO files. This will make the DVD blank not recordable any more (although could erase if it is RW disk), but is the only way MSPro will capture.
Do this, then start mspro capture, select "DVD import" capture plugin, and to capture select the VIDEO_TS folder. You can select the titles/programs to capture, and it will create MPG files.
JVC might also have some PC program to convert the VTS into MPG, not sure.
Now you can edit MPG files (adding titles/credits, intro video, effects etc whatever) in MSPro. You should set the project settings to match the MPEG file settings, so that mspro won't re-render the unedited portions of the MPEG. Create a new MPG file w/ those settings as well, MSPro will "smart-render" and only re-encode the altered portions of your video (eg no loss of quality/fast edit.)
Now use DVD authoring program (built in to mspro, or your own), and you can create a new DVD with menus/chapters etc for the MPG files.
for the rest, check more on the program manuals etc.
If I may say so, your method is a clumsy way of capturing from a VHS tape. It would be MUCH better to capture your analogue video directly into your computer using either a DV converter/DV camera or a video-in graphics card.
Going from VHS to DVD to computer to DVD will deteriorate the quality of the already-mediocre VHS each time you have to re-render. Furthermore, using DV will not only improve the quality but also the reliability with such things as sound synch, with far less hassle.
Going from VHS to DVD to computer to DVD will deteriorate the quality of the already-mediocre VHS each time you have to re-render. Furthermore, using DV will not only improve the quality but also the reliability with such things as sound synch, with far less hassle.
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Thankyou ever so much. You guys are really very helpfull. Its greatly appreciated and Im very happy with your help.
I just cant thank you enough. I will try these hints.
Incidently I came across a site in my search and a guy explains how one can use dvd decypter to convert vts file to mpegs.
It may be of some use here for others that are quite new to Ulead and dvd conversions. I have used this in the last hour or so and yes Ive got my dvd into Mediastudio.
Hip hip horay for Hollywood. I think Im about to unleash a new Harry potter movie with all the effects via U beaut ulead me into movie production! Only joling of course but none the less Ive got my family video into editing mode.
Oh heres the link for dvd decryter
http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=224833
Hope this may be of use to others. DVD decrypter is free.
I just cant thank you enough. I will try these hints.
Incidently I came across a site in my search and a guy explains how one can use dvd decypter to convert vts file to mpegs.
It may be of some use here for others that are quite new to Ulead and dvd conversions. I have used this in the last hour or so and yes Ive got my dvd into Mediastudio.
Hip hip horay for Hollywood. I think Im about to unleash a new Harry potter movie with all the effects via U beaut ulead me into movie production! Only joling of course but none the less Ive got my family video into editing mode.
Oh heres the link for dvd decryter
http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=224833
Hope this may be of use to others. DVD decrypter is free.
Sorry Devil but you see after doing some sums it wasnt worth it for me to upgrade my computer and in the end the best way for me was to get a dvd recorder. I dont want to buy a new dvd camcorder either to have the relevant connections. In the end of all the research on getting vhs to computer is the way I opted for. The dvd recorder has a super mpeg processor with other features. It also has dvd ram capabilities which im yet to explore.
I know this may not be to some the best way to get vhs to computer but its sure fast in real time.
Im happy with it and the qulity is very good none the less.
I know this may not be to some the best way to get vhs to computer but its sure fast in real time.
Im happy with it and the qulity is very good none the less.
re DVD recorder vs DV encoder for VHS/analog transfers: there are benefits to both.
I have a Canopus ADVC-100 analog/DV converter, which does an excellent job converting formats back&forth (and is useful also to convert DV out preview from MSPro to my analog NTSC monitor.)
This is the best method for lots of (frame-accurate) editing & effects in terms of retaining image quality/avoiding MPEG re-renders etc.
However, I also most often use my Panasonic DVD recorder (to DVD-RAM VRO format), as the recorder has a built-in TBC which does a good job stabilizing "wobbly" analog tape recordings, and still has a VERY good MPEG encoder (sometimes I believe better than MSPro's software encoder- especially at low bitrates.)
This is not so good for editing (eg if I am going to do lots of fancy transitions/overlays/alterations of video), but for cuts-only editing (if any) w/ the benefit of MSPro SmartRender, most of the video is untouched quality wise and can go straight to my DVD authoring tool (which gives much nicer menus and chapters etc than my standalone DVD recorder can do of course.)
I can also record TV shows of course, so might be better bang for buck that way.
Just wanted to clarify both options, actually I tend to use the standalone recorder almost more than MSPro for analog, even for DV stuff, since it's quick & easy and doesn't occupy the computer for hours!
I have a Canopus ADVC-100 analog/DV converter, which does an excellent job converting formats back&forth (and is useful also to convert DV out preview from MSPro to my analog NTSC monitor.)
This is the best method for lots of (frame-accurate) editing & effects in terms of retaining image quality/avoiding MPEG re-renders etc.
However, I also most often use my Panasonic DVD recorder (to DVD-RAM VRO format), as the recorder has a built-in TBC which does a good job stabilizing "wobbly" analog tape recordings, and still has a VERY good MPEG encoder (sometimes I believe better than MSPro's software encoder- especially at low bitrates.)
This is not so good for editing (eg if I am going to do lots of fancy transitions/overlays/alterations of video), but for cuts-only editing (if any) w/ the benefit of MSPro SmartRender, most of the video is untouched quality wise and can go straight to my DVD authoring tool (which gives much nicer menus and chapters etc than my standalone DVD recorder can do of course.)
I can also record TV shows of course, so might be better bang for buck that way.
Just wanted to clarify both options, actually I tend to use the standalone recorder almost more than MSPro for analog, even for DV stuff, since it's quick & easy and doesn't occupy the computer for hours!
I had always heard various problems with TV/analog in cards (audio synch, stability, capture/software compatibility issues, quality etc), and I did have problems with a USB-video-in MPEG capture box...
although that was a while ago and they have improved some now(likely are much better for TV capture w/ tuner, rather than video-in.)
I preferred to stick with locked-audio etc. straight DV converted capture- NO compatibility or stability issues- or with standalone HW MPEG encoders.
Your mileage may vary of course, but fyi. Glad we have lots of options to choose from!
although that was a while ago and they have improved some now(likely are much better for TV capture w/ tuner, rather than video-in.)
I preferred to stick with locked-audio etc. straight DV converted capture- NO compatibility or stability issues- or with standalone HW MPEG encoders.
Your mileage may vary of course, but fyi. Glad we have lots of options to choose from!
I always used to have trouble with my video caputure card, and the files seemed to take a huge amounts of diskspace, because it captured at a resolution that was far higher than I needed.
I found that the easiest way was to use my tv dvd recorder to capture what I want onto a rewritable disk. Rip the files onto the hard drive and change the vob extension to mpg. My software then lets me import them, so I can edit and then burn them to a new dvd. I can then reuse the first disk for my next project.
I found this the best way to convert analogue to digital as well.
I found that the easiest way was to use my tv dvd recorder to capture what I want onto a rewritable disk. Rip the files onto the hard drive and change the vob extension to mpg. My software then lets me import them, so I can edit and then burn them to a new dvd. I can then reuse the first disk for my next project.
I found this the best way to convert analogue to digital as well.
You guys really rock! Thanks heaps. Everyone has different methods of doing things and I suppose at the end of the day its a maater of individual prefererence on how to do things.
I found that a DVD recorder is easy to use to capture vhs or other sources with front in rcas or DV inputs and or svideo socket. I also have the option to use my dvd recorder to record onto one dvd disc 2. and a half hours of film up to 8 hours on one disk. Of course the quality will suffer but jvc are adamant that 2 !/2 hours can be captured on one disk withno loss of quality. How goods that?
For me it would be more connections to use a computer capture card or tv tuner capture devive. My wife shes already freaked by all the cabling at the back of my computer lol without having more going from it to my camcorder or TV by a capture device. Remember I speak for my circumstances
I came to the conclusion that this works best for me to transfer media to DVD.
Ok so what am I wanting to achive? Just to get the files to my hard drive and then edit them. Getting files to the hard drive is simple but how to open them in an editing software is a bit daunting.
Ive trier DVD rw and selected the VR option. Once done the disc is finalized. So now ive got a DVD VR disk. But still mediastudio wont open it.
Is it because its been finalized or is it that my DVD ROM cant read it?
If i use dvd Decrypter and follow the instructions given by the link ive provided I can open it as a converted mpeg file via decrypters method.
I have also DVDit by sonic.com and it has a import feature for DVD VR but comes up with a message saying disc in dvd drive is not a DVD VR what the????
So Im like a dog chasin its tail or maybe Im missing a simple explanation and will kick my self later for bothering you guys who are giggling right now. lol.
Oh well Im no expert but eager to learn! Please teach me.
Thanks heaps
Steve
I found that a DVD recorder is easy to use to capture vhs or other sources with front in rcas or DV inputs and or svideo socket. I also have the option to use my dvd recorder to record onto one dvd disc 2. and a half hours of film up to 8 hours on one disk. Of course the quality will suffer but jvc are adamant that 2 !/2 hours can be captured on one disk withno loss of quality. How goods that?
For me it would be more connections to use a computer capture card or tv tuner capture devive. My wife shes already freaked by all the cabling at the back of my computer lol without having more going from it to my camcorder or TV by a capture device. Remember I speak for my circumstances
I came to the conclusion that this works best for me to transfer media to DVD.
Ok so what am I wanting to achive? Just to get the files to my hard drive and then edit them. Getting files to the hard drive is simple but how to open them in an editing software is a bit daunting.
Ive trier DVD rw and selected the VR option. Once done the disc is finalized. So now ive got a DVD VR disk. But still mediastudio wont open it.
Is it because its been finalized or is it that my DVD ROM cant read it?
If i use dvd Decrypter and follow the instructions given by the link ive provided I can open it as a converted mpeg file via decrypters method.
I have also DVDit by sonic.com and it has a import feature for DVD VR but comes up with a message saying disc in dvd drive is not a DVD VR what the????
So Im like a dog chasin its tail or maybe Im missing a simple explanation and will kick my self later for bothering you guys who are giggling right now. lol.
Oh well Im no expert but eager to learn! Please teach me.
Thanks heaps
Steve
Yes it should be that easy! Make sure Windows is set to display file extensions, then right click the file and scoll to select rename. Now is a good time to change the name to something more meaningful eg rename vts01.vob to wedding.mpgstevedvd wrote:Sorry DarrenUK how do you change the VOB extension. Is it as simple as renaming it? Not sure how to do this.
If I am recording something off the telly/ analogue camera (which is all I have at the moment):
1. I do it on a rewritable disk and don't finalize disk.
2. Use a freeware program called SmartRipper to rip the files from the disk to the hard drive.
3. Delete all the files except the ones with a vob extension.
4. Rename .vob files with .mpg
5. I import them into VideoStudio to edit out any adverts or extra bits that have been recorded before and after the tv programme.
6. I export the file with the same settings as first clip.
7. I then import the exported file into Pinacle Studio 9 to create a menu, chapters and then burn it to dvd.
8. Once I have tested the new dvd and made sure it is alright, I then erase the rewritable one in my dvd recorder so it is ready for something else.
Warning!
I tend to record programmes that I want to transfer in standard play which is about 2 hours on a disk, otherwise the output file can be squashed up widthwise and has to be output later at the proper dimensions. I have also found that if you are putting together two files that have been recorded on different machines, for example an old recorder that you have replaced. Then when you have edited the together and output them using the method I described, sometimes the sound on the second part wont sync up as well as different dvd recorders record audio in slightly different ways.
Other people may know of other ways, but I haven't noticed any significant drop in picture quality and it works for me.
Good luck! I hope this helps.
Darren
addition: Make sure that automatic chapters are switched off on the dvd recorder as the more files you need to import the more likely there is to be a problem with sound sync.
Be sure to check the burn't dvd properly before you delete the orinal files.
Possibly look into vob conversion programmes as mentioned in the post below this, if it doesn't work for you.
Last edited by DarrenUK on Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
You should be aware that changing the extension does not always work. VOB is a derivative of MPG and may contain changes that are not acceptable in a mpg file. This is why there are VOB>MPG converters, such as the one in MSP8, which demultiplex the VOB and rewrite it as a compliant MPG.
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