Issues With Video Studio 10

Hydro · Post by **Hydro** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:32 am

First off let me apologize for being a noob
i was born like this im decent with everything else but doing anything related to video as well as women or mechanics escape me
So please forgive any etiqute transgressions as well as spelling as my children make sleep difficult
anyhow i as well as quite a few others i see are having issues with video studio 10 with audio sync issues

i have a p4 with 2 GB ram and a 3.0 Ghz processor (hyperthreaded) running Winblows XP SP2

Here is what i need to do
I had bought the first season of a show called Drawn together on DVD
and my daughter decided it would be funny to put all of the disc's in the dvd player two at a time
which not only ruined the dvd player but my discs as well
so i ran to walmart to grab a replacement DVD player and decided not to buy the show since i had already purchased it once and had legal right to own it in the format of my choosing
so i jumped on isohunt and grabbed the avi files for the show
now i need to get them back from avi to DVD

any help would be greatly appritiated (SP)
as every program i have ever attempted this task with has
given me nothing but a s**** disc full of audio/video sync errors
And i am currently burning a test disc now of a larger AVI file to see how it will work
but after 2:32 it is only 20% complete is this normal
is there any way to speed this up and lastly what do you reccomend for settings Any help would be wonderful

Hydro

ArcAngel · Post by **ArcAngel** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:21 am

I assume that the video in the DVD is in DVD format.

You can then use the import DVD function in VideoStudio to edit this video or just burn to DVD directly PROVIDED that the DVD does not contain any copy protection system.

If you choose not to edit the DVD and burn directly to DVD, then basically the software wont convert DVD-compliant video files thus wont have any AV sync problem.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:03 pm

Sorry, ArcAngel, but is it just me? I read the OP as suggesting they were trying to process some form of AVI file which they had downloaded from ISOhunt. In other words, DVD compliant mpeg-2 has not yet entered the picture.

However, the important piece of information which is missing is exactly what sort of AVI we are dealing with. I doubt it is 'true' uncompressed AVI as that runs to 65GB an hour, and would be a beast to download. I am also thinking it is unlikely to be DV/AVI (which is 13 GB per hour).

... which leaves us with one of the highly compressed mpeg-4 versions of .avi, such as DivX or XVid.

What we need is for Hydro to right click on one of the downloaded files within Video Studio and copy ALL its Properties here. Then we might be able to offer some more substantive advice.

As it is, we are merely guessing -- though it it is indeed DivX or XVid, then both are know to cause difficulties in converting. This would be even more so, Hydro, if you merely downloaded these files, put them in the timeline and went direct to Share > Create Disc in order to try to re-create your original DVDs... At the very least, if you have the relevant DivX or Xvid codecs on your computer, you should have gone to Share > Create Video File > DVD to first convert the project into DVD-compatible mpeg-2.

This would also have taken some time, but at least it would not have been lumped together, on the fly, with the other complex aspects of authoring a disc.

Hydro · Post by **Hydro** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:32 pm

Wwll im still stuck burning at +12 hours as soon as its done i will tell you the result of my conversion and see what yall say from there oh :enc Screen shot

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:51 pm

I agree Ken. It even sounds to me like he is trying to burn an AVI file to disc.

And i am currently burning a test disc now of a larger AVI file to see how it will work

Also, by the looks of your system tray you have a s-load of stuff running in the background. That could also cause problems.

Right click on one of the clips that you downloaded and copy down the properties here. That will at least let us know exactly what we are dealing with.

In the mean time you may benefit by reading these threads:
Suggested Workflow
From Camcorder to DVD
Create a Video Editing Profile

Hydro · Post by **Hydro** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:08 pm

is this what you had requested

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:31 pm

As I thought, you are using mpeg-4 video AND trying to burn it at the same time as the program is trying to convert it to DVD-compatible mpeg-2.

What you need to do is first convert the captured video to mpeg-2. The bitrate is totally different, and even the frame size is not DVD compliant, quite apart from the totally different algorithms by which mpeg-4 is constructed.

While VS can theoretically do the conversion, it does not have a great record when mpeg-4 is involved. Hopefully, that will change with VS11. However, there are special programs out there which can do the conversion well and fast. One such is a freeware program called SUPER (and its name is usually given in capitals!

) But you might also investigate whether ffdshow can also do the job since you apparently have it on your computer (and from memory, SUPER uses the ffdshow codec anyway).

I would first convert every clip of captured/imported video to mpeg-2, and only then import them into VS and put them in the VS timeline for editing. Then I would go to Share > Create Video File > DVD to produce a single DVD-compatible mpeg-2 of the whole project. Then I would open a new project, but leave the timeline empty. I would then select Share > Create Disc, and insert the new mpeg-2 file in the burning module which appears, build my menu and burn. I'd first also check in the Options cogwheel icon in bottom left of the burning screen to make sure the box beside 'do not convert compliant mpeg files' is ticked.

That way, the burning process should be relatively fast as your computer would not be trying to convert the mpeg-4 as well as do the complex enough task of multiplexing and burning...

Hydro · Post by **Hydro** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:53 am

ok i have used super to convert the files to mpeg II
no i am doing the share create video thing and am creating them as a NTSC DVD is this correct ?
also since there are four episodes per disc
am i doing this right wouldnt creat video file create one long chapter instead of four seperate ones or am i alas more nooby than i thought

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:00 am

If, using SUPER, you have produced four separate videos, each of which has properties which are DVD-compliant, and you want to keep them as separate titles on your DVD, then you do not join them together. Instead, if they need editing, you edit them separately and then render them separately (using Share > Create Video File > DVD). That way you end up with 4 separate videos which are both edited and DVD-compatible.

But if you don't intend to edit them, you jump this step and go straight to Share > Create Disc (which you also do after completing the above step if you edit them). You then insert the four separate videos in the burning timeline. As such, they will appear in the main menu as four separate titles.

Hydro · Post by **Hydro** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:49 am

thank you so much you have been a great help to me all of you who have responded
i have one last question (for the time being )
same type thing
my daughter trashed my dvd's as i have said
she trashed my forest gump which i didnt realize until i found it today
i have had the AVI for forest gump for quite a while so i figured id burn it too
problem is it will not fit on my DVD
any suggestions

it says one gig in explorer but when i set it up under share create disc it says its 5 GB how do i make it fit

ArcAngel · Post by **ArcAngel** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:07 am

Hydro wrote:thank you so much you have been a great help to me all of you who have responded
i have one last question (for the time being )
same type thing
my daughter trashed my dvd's as i have said
she trashed my forest gump which i didnt realize until i found it today
i have had the AVI for forest gump for quite a while so i figured id burn it too
problem is it will not fit on my DVD
any suggestions

it says one gig in explorer but when i set it up under share create disc it says its 5 GB how do i make it fit

Modify the DVD project settings/properties, especially the video data rate.

I assume that movie is almost two hours. Set the video data rate to maximum of 3500kbps.

Hydro · Post by **Hydro** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:14 am

sorry once again for being a noob would i do this in SUPER or in VS and where would i find this setting

ArcAngel · Post by **ArcAngel** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:22 am

In the Share step if you are using the Create Video File, click it then, select custom, then select MPEG as the save as type, click Options

Go to compression tab, select NTSC DVD (or PAL DVD), in the video data rate, set to 3500kbps, in the general tab, select 720 x 480.

If you are in the Create Disc Step, jst click the project settings, or by again ALT+Enter, then modify the properties to same as above.

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:19 pm

she trashed my forest gump which i didnt realize until i found it today
i have had the AVI for forest gump for quite a while so i figured id burn it too
problem is it will not fit on my DVD
any suggestions

In the end you may find this to be a waste of time because the video will not be even close to the quality of the original dvd.

The Panasonic line of DVD recorders all can use "Protective Cartridges" to protect the dvd's. They are invaluable for preserving dvd's and rewriteable media. DVD's are supposed to last a very long time, I think that's if you never handle them

(not to mention those little mini-dvd's, panasonic also has protective cartridges for those).

This forum doesn't promote how to convert / copy copyrighted material, nor is this forum supposed to support it (previous posts).
Irregardless of personnel issues.
This thread should be locked

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:50 pm

This forum doesn't promote how to convert / copy copyrighted material, nor is this forum supposed to support it (previous posts).

The problem is the convoluted copyright laws. People think when they buy a DVD or CD they can then do with it what they like. That's not always the case. But, aside from lawyers, nobody really knows what the case is.