IS THERE ANYWAY OF COPY PROTECTING MY DVD'S

grant99 · Post by **grant99** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:34 pm

hi
basically, i produce dvd's for a dance school my daughter goes to, they have events, i video and produce these dvd's for other mums and dads to raise money for the dance team, some are obviously copying these,
is there anyway to protect them, (i do understand the likes of dvd shrink etc can bypass this) but many dont know this, they only know how to do a direct copy
please help
cheers grant
i use vs10+

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:43 pm

Not within VideoStudio or any other consumer based video editor. Apparently the costs associated with such a thing are astronomical.

grant99 · Post by **grant99** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:47 pm

hi
had a thought, if i copy a song of a cd and pasword protect it, then drag it into the video_ts or audio_ts or even the outside of these 2 folders, will this make the dvd unreadable?
cheers grant

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:53 pm

If it was me I would turn the concept around and promote copying the dvd's for advertisement purposes. People then don't pay for the dvd, it's then a donation to the organization.
You can use a play first video to the dvd, add a titled beginning and ends.
Put the studios address, phone number, webpage on the cover of the dvd and all.
Just check and get permission from ASCAP which shouldn't be a problem for show tunes.

http://www.ascap.com/index.html

http://www.ascap.com/licensing/pdfs/educational.pdf

Tons of Links:
http://search.ascap.com/search/?sp-q=pe ... x=0&go.y=0

Personnally I would consule a lawyer that deals with Copyrights / Permissions and has experience in this field. It shouldn't be a big deal, everyone's doing it.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:56 pm

Do you have rights to use the song? If you are taking it from a cd I suspect you don't. How do you justify wanting to stop people from reproducing your work, when that is what you have done by using someone else's music?

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:59 pm

DVD Workshop 2 allows you to add Macrovision copy protection and also Region settings.

I don't know it they are any good as I never bothered trying.
Even the DVD's produced from Hollywood film Studios are easily copied despite the enormous outlay the put into their copy protection systems.

Perhaps you need to do your own version of one of those FBI warning screens as a first play to shame people into doing the decent thing.

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:06 pm

I just re-read the original post. His daughter attends this studio. He doesn't own the studio I think.
I would definitely consult a lawyer, are these videos of minors or adults?
You need permission from the parents if minors. To many wackos out there.
Lawyer Time. Aren't you glad you asked this question?

Better do this now because if you die and go to heaven you won't find a lawyer in heaven

grant99 · Post by **grant99** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:15 am

did not realise it would stirr this up,
firstly, yes i have permission,
secondly the funds raised goes straight to the children/teenagers teams for clothes etc,
and lastly the song was just a suggestion, thats not set in stone, could not think of anyway other than that of stopping it being copied,
but thanks for sjj1805 suggestion as this seems to be that mature answer

ArcAngel · Post by **ArcAngel** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:46 am

YOu can use DVD Workshop 2 that has Macrovision and CSS copy protections.

In order for you to use the Macrovision and CSS copy protections, you must have their respective licenses to incorporate their technologies to your DVD.

You need to create a DVD on a DLT and then go to replicating companies and give them the DLT. If you have applicable copy protection licenses, the replicating company will embed those copy protection to the DVDs that will be produced.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:13 pm

From DVDDoug in a previous thread:

You can't put CSS (digital copy ptotection) on a "burned" DVD. I'm not sure about Macrovision (analog copy protection). I think it is technically possible to enable Macrovision, because the Macrovision signal is generated by the DVD player... The DVD just has to tell the player to turn it on.

Both require an EXPEN$IVE license!!!!!

Quote:
The licensor of CSS encryption technology is DVD CCA (Copy Control Association), a non-profit trade association with offices at 225 B Cochrane Circle, Morgan Hill, CA. There is a $15,000 annual licensing fee, but no per-product royalties. Send license requests to css-license@lmicp.com , technical info requests to css-info@lmicp.com . Before December 15, 1999, CSS licensing was administered on an interim basis by Matsushita.

Macrovision licenses its analog anti-recording technology to hardware makers. There is a $30,000 initial charge, with a $15,000 yearly renewal fee. The fees support certification of players to ensure widest compatibility with televisions. There are no royalty charges for player manufacturers. Macrovision charges a royalty to content publishers (approximately 4 to 10 cents per disc, compared to 2 to 5 cents for a VHS tape).

DVD Workshop allows you to set "flags" on your master DLT (tape). You send that DLT to the duplication plant, and your DVDs are made with copy protection.

There is something called CPRM (Copy Protection for Recordable Media) that can be put on "burned" DVDs. But, I don't know of any software that has it.

Chief_Bugga · Post by **Chief_Bugga** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:07 pm

Here's what I found helps. Try to get an electronic copy of the FBI warning slides you see in store bought DVDs. (They're not easy to find, but they are available.) I found them in the DAZZLE software I purchased in 2002 for converting VHS-C home movies to DVD. These aren't just for Hollywood - they're for anyone who produces videos they want to protect from unauthorized copying. If you can get the slides, turn them into a video clip that you insert as a first play clip in the Create Disk step. Then highlight the first clip from the footage you shot to start creating the menu & proceed as usual. I use NERO Ultra 7 if I make any clones. When I have that clip on my master DVD I can only make the copies on a computer with VS10 installed. So far the combination has prevented copying from the copies done with Nero. It's not the ideal solution to Grant's problem. It goes back to the old guilt trip theory. I agree with Grant - we do need a simple, cost effective solution that's built into the software. We shouldn't have to spend additional money to protect our master DVDs from unauthorized copying. --- Chief Mac

Chief_Bugga · Post by **Chief_Bugga** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:18 pm

Just thought of something - I have WINDVD DVD Creator that came with my laptop. Is there anything in that software that might be helpful & compatible with VS10? Anybody tried? ----- Chief Mac

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:29 pm

Try to get an electronic copy of the FBI warning slides you see in store bought DVDs. (They're not easy to find, but they are available.)

Easier to find than you may think.

http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... hlight=fbi

Chief_Bugga · Post by **Chief_Bugga** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:07 pm

Thanks Jeff - the biggest issue we all have to watch when not reinventing the wheel is that little comment the FBI went & made about copyrighted videos. In the case of folks like Grant, the copyright protections apply to the materials contained in the video that are under copyright versus the video itself. Unfortunately, the FBI didn't choose to make that fine distinction when they developed the slides. Yet, something is better than nothing.

grant99 · Post by **grant99** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:55 pm

hi chief & black lab
much appreciated, have downloaded the fbi warning, cant wait to see on the big screen!
cheers grant

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