Creating wmv, mpg files in vs10+

[zehavi]

I have created in VS10+ a short video clip, about 2 minutes in the format of mpeg1 and wmv in order to mail them to freinds. Unfortunately they got the message that there is not a program to open those file. I had the same message when I try to mail it to myself. I have not any problem to open those files with the windows media player by double click the files on the "my computer" screen.
Any help will be appreciate.
Abraham

[railroadguy]

What was the exact error? Normally Windows associates files with their extension. If Windows knows what a wmv is, it will open the media player. If the media player then does not know how to play this file, or the file format is not what the player is expecting, you may see an error saying it can't play. I have not seen an error saying there is not a program to open those files unless Windows does not understand the extension, which is this case does not sound to be true.

Once we know the error message, and where it's coming from, ie Windows itself or the media player, we can begin to help.

[Ken Berry]

... The codecs for both .wmv and mpeg-1 are installed by Windows. So if your friends (and you) have Windows, you should all have the codecs to play your clips.

So I agree with railroadguy that we need first to know what the exact properties of your clips were. Right click on a sample of each within VS10+ and copy down ALL the properties here, please.

[sjj1805]

Firstly check your Windows file Associations as most email programs use the association set in windows:

Specify the program that starts when you open a file
Many file types in Windows are registered to be opened by a particular program. For example, Notepad starts when you open a text (.txt) file. You can change the program that starts when you open a particular type of file.

In My Computer or Windows Explorer, click the View menu, and then click Options.
Click the File Types tab.
In the Registered file types box, click the file type you want to open with a different program.
Click Edit.
In the Actions box, click Open.
Click Edit.
In the Application used to perform action box, type the path to the program you want to use to open files of the selected file type. Or click Browse to select the path from a folder list.
Note Not all registered file types have an Open action.

Not all email programs may share those same windows associations and so you need to check the help file within the email application.

Another thing that may prevent a file from opening is the email program may have a firewall. This is something that is designed to prevent potentially malicious viruses from attacking your computer.
You may have to alter the emails security level settings in much the same way you do with a web browser
(traditionally low / medium / high)

For further information please view:
No file Association
Unsafe attachments
Various Viewers and converters
Email link Problems

[zehavi]

Hello friends,
Thank you very much for your replies.
First of all I would like to emphasize that my e-mail recipiences and myself has not any problem to open a video file with the Windows Media Player. The only problem is to open the video files which was created in VS10+ after they has been sent by e-mail.
Luckily, I have created the desired file using the "Share Video Online" – good quality, instead of "Create Video File", and this file was open successfuly after sending it by regular e-mail (not via Neptune.com)

Following is the properties of those files as been accepted in the VS10+ program:

case 1

Created by "Create Video File", was not recognized after sending it by e-mail

video
File format: mpeg-1

Attributes: 24 bits, 352x288, 4:3
Frame rate: 25.000 frames/sec
Data rate: 1150 kbps

Audio
Audio type: mpeg audio layer 2 files
Attributes : 44100 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo
Layer: 2
Bit rate: 224 kbps


Case 2

Created by "Create Video File", was not recognized after sending it by e-mail

File format: windows Media Video

Data rate: 693 kbps

Video: windows Media Video V8
24 bits, 352x288, 30.000 frames/sec

Aspect ratio: 1.22 : 1.00


Case 3

Created by "Share Video Online" – good quality (instead of "Create Video File"). Was recognized by regular e-mail (not via Neptune.com)

File format: Windows Media Video

Data rate: 500 kbps

Video: Windows Media Video 9
24 bits, 320x240, 29.970 frames/sec

Audio: Windows Media Audio 9.2
44.100 KHz, 16 bits, Stereo

Aspect ratio: 1.33/1.00

I will appreciate any explanation in order to understand what happen.
Thanks,
Abraham

[today_on_ulead]

I too have this same problem of friends unable to see my videos, and reported it to tech support over the phone with examples. One friend installed VS10 trial and was able to see the videos but that is not acceptable.

With no solution in sight after a few months, I have resigned myself to use only Windows Media Video 9 compression and not the ULEAD.now encoder or my other favorites.

BUT...

With WMV9 my friends see the videos but I just now notice that I cannot transfer these clips into Quicktime as the audio doesn't seem to encode.

As a result I am ecoding directly into Quicktime format now in VS10 and it seems to work well, possibly because I have purchased Quicktime PRO (I'm uncertain whether the full PRO features are in VS10 or it's because I have PRO installed)

The tradeoff is that QT clips don't show a thumbnail until you search out a program on the web, and even then, they are slow thumnails in some cases. Clearly Microsoft and Apple are in some sort of competition and I am the loser having to figure out a myriad of tradeoffs and permutations.

That all said, I would very much want in the long-term to have videos in both QT AND WMV9 encoder formats.

1) Is there some way to batch QT (.mov) clips as there does not seem to be an option in Tools-Batch

2) My WMV9's seem to be problematic because they are not a true MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 they are just avi ... only ULEAD.now encoder seems to be allowed in MPEG-1 and MPEG-2. How do I get WMV9 encoder (after downloading from Microsoft) to work to create MPEG-1 or MPEG-2?

3) Again I am having difficulty batching this WMV9 encoded files.

Any response would be appreciated. I am so thrilled with the performance for the price of VS10, that I can live with these limitations that I attribute mainly to Microsoft and Apple.

[today_on_ulead]

noticed same issue (unable to play videos on computers that don't have ULEAD installed) on another forum. http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... ht=encoder

seems more and more of us are spinning our wheels in frustration while ULEAD Support brushes it off

[sjj1805]

The problem with playback on other computers is that you are given a lot of freedom when it comes to creating a video that can be shared in many ways.

You can set various bit rates, frame rates, compression formats such as
MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG4, DV, Quicktime, WMF and many more.

You have to choose a codec that your recipent will also have.
I often have this problem when I try to send a short video file to myself at my workplace. My workplace computers run NT4 Service pack 6 but our I.T. Department has locked the machines down to prevent users from making alterations and installing their own software etc.

This means that at work I am restricted to Windows Media Player 6.

Often I get a message from Windows Media Player stating it is going online to download the required codec - which obviously gets blocked because of the way our machines are locked down by our I.T. Dept

No good me moaning at them - they would only ask "Why are you downloading a video anyway?"

So you have to be clever and alter your settings to comply with something that will play the other end.

In brief..... CODEC stands for
COmpression / DECompression.

A raw video file (avi) would take up 65GB of hard drive space for every hours worth of video - far too big to fit on a DVD disc and unthinkable to email it! So the boffins came up with compression. Bit like when you use winzip to make a file smaller and later unzip it again.

Different boffins came up with different ways of compressing a video and thus we have all these alternative formats MPEG1 MPEG2 DivX Quicktime and so on. When you receive a compressed video you have to have its decompressor.

It's rather like having a Winzip file and trying to unzip it with WinRar - it just wouldn't work - they are different systems.

Hope this all makes sense and as you can see it is not a Ulead Problem at all.

One almost foolproof way to share your video with friends is not to send them but upload them onto a site like YouTube or Veoh.com.

Please view our forum
Members Samples which not only contains members samples but also contains links to various sites where you can share your videos online.
Then you simply send an email to your friends/family giving the location of your video.

[today_on_ulead]

Thanks for a quick response.

From my post above you can see that I am settling in on my preferred solution, which as you point out is tricky with all of the options out there.

I am just noticing, with the help of the other topic, that I erred in focusing on the MPEG-1 (my old favorite since it always encoded wickedly fast)... therefore just will focus on wmv and mov.

So my question(s) is now much simpler... Under Tools - Batch Convert - Save As Type - ... there are 8 types but no .mov ... how do I Batch .mov files ?

[today_on_ulead]

To update,

I've been trying to work with Media Player formats other than MPEG-1 but as good as they are they just don't cut it for me. (though still intending to make .mov formats for the Quicktime player)

The MPEG-1 using the ULEAD MPEG.now encoder should work on everyone's PC but does not. When it does work, MPEG.now encoder is excellent.

I followed the lead of another perplexed user in the forum called "codecs" and :

1) noticed also that my MPEG.now files will play back fine (but no audio) on all PC's if you encode video only (I tried about 10 other things and all failed)

2) quickly downloaded and ran GSPOT to find the root cause, that being on PC's that work (ie. ULEAD VS10 installed) the video uses "MainConcept MPEG Splitter" while on PC's that don't work, the video uses a generic "MPEG-I Splitter" and fails

I really want to use the MPEG.now encoder, but I do not want to walk over to peoples' homes and install software in order for them to see MPEG-1 videos that should run universally. Therefore can it be corrected so that MPEG.now decodes using the generic MPEG-I splitter?

Again let me reiterate that I can't stress enough how thrilled I am with VS10 in all other areas!!

[Ken Berry]

As I said in my original post, I am 99% sure that the mpeg-1 codec used by VS is NOT a Ulead codec, but is installed as part of Windows i.e. it is a Microsoft codec or one which is licensed by them.

The Ulead codec which is installed with VS is the mpeg-2 one. And up to VS10, at least, this used to be a licensed MainConcept one though of course called Ulead Mpeg.now. Since InterVideo took over Ulead, some InterVideo codecs have started appearing, though I am not certain this was the case with VS10 and its mpeg-2 codec.

However, I admit we all remain in the dark, and would require a Ulead technical person to tell us exactly what is installed with their program(s). And that, unfortunately, going on past experience on this Board, is unlikely to happen.

[today_on_ulead]

Even more searching brings up even more perplexed VS10 users as in forum topic "VideoStudio 10 Plus MPG 1 CODEC??" = http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?p=63971

If we are all perplexed I personally think it is because we think we are encoding with the ULEAD MPEG.Now MPEG-1 encoder and then expecting it to be universally played on all MediaPlayers 9+ which is very reasonable to think I would assume.

Here are my specifics.

1) I had Googled "ULEAD" and "MPEG.NOW" and saw that ULEAD introduced MPEG.now in 2002 --- "The new features of the Ulead MPEG.Now software codec were developed using MainConcept's MPEG SDK. The technology will be incorporated into all future versions of Ulead's video editing and DVD authoring programs. Ulead MPEG.Now offers ultra-fast, high-quality MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 transcoding as well as real-time encoding."

2) Since I really appreciate the quality, file sizes, and especially realtime encoding of MPEG-1 (and other advantages), I prefer to encode my files with ULEAD's MPEG.now. To do this I create my own encoder Template in ULEAD as follows

select
- Tools
- Make Movie Manager
- New
- File Format = "MPEG Files"
and Template name = "ULEAD_NOW_TEST"
Hit OK and then under the General tab there
is no other choice but "ULEAD MPEG.Now Encoder"
and under the Compression tab, the
media type is MPEG-1

Therefore by all indications I am encoding MPEG-1 with the ULEAD MPEG.now encoder

So I do not understand when you say that the MPEG-1 codec is not a ULEAD codec nor that ULEAD codec is only MPEG-2 one since VS10 tells me otherwise. My opinion is that the MPEG-1 encoding is ULEAD proprietary and the MPEG-1 decoding is universal, generic .

This problem was discussed in detail in the other topic but everyone just gave up on getting it fixed (and I agree playing in Quicktime is not a fix as it has numerous bad tradeoffs)

hoping for some quick clean solution (in other topic it is suggested that VS9 encoder works fine so maybe there's just a file from VS9 we can use??) so that I can continue, thanks

[today_on_ulead]

Has this problem been corrected in version 11? I really really need/want the ULEAD MPEG.NOW codec to to work for public consumption.

[today_on_ulead]

after one month I finally find the Version 10 solution. First phone support rep could not help, and on second try, I gave up after 4 hours on hold. whatup? Am still impressed with product though..