SLIDE SHOW AND MOVIE WIZARD

ramdaspillai · Post by **ramdaspillai** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:37 am

Gents,

There are some good templates for Auto slide show and movie wizard in VS 9 which are not available in VS 10. Can we import them into VS10?

After installing and using VS10 (not upgrade, separate installation), When I open VS 9 program, it opens and crashes in a blink of the eye. Why is this happening. Is there a way to rectify this problem? Because of this I am not able to use of those auto movie wizards.

Regards,

Pillai

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:04 pm

Firstly check the sentance below in red just in case this is the cause of your problem.

Normally you can install more than one version of a Ulead program and it will not interfere with other versions (as you can see from my signature below). Sometimes however you do get a conflict or it may try and remove an earlier version.

For example moving up from MovieFactory 5 from MovieFactory 4 would uninstall MF4 first. Recently I installed MF6 and it affected the DVD import routines of my other Ulead programs.

Not to worry, I soon get them all working.

Try this to get Version 9 working again.
1. Rename the folder
C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 10\
to become
C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 10x\

2. Run the VS9 installation program and you should get a repair option.
This should get VS9 working again.

3. Revert the folder
C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 10x\
back to its original name
C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 10\

You should now be able to run VS9 OR VS10 but not at the same time. You would have to close one before the other will work.

Regarding sharing stuff between versions please view:
MF5/MF6/VS9 /VS10: Share Menus, Transitions between products

ramdaspillai · Post by **ramdaspillai** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:10 pm

Hi, SJJ,

Thanks for the quick reply.

I always close VS10 before I open VS9.

I tried as you suggested, but when I selected repair, the program is asking me to put the VS9 program disk to continue. Unfortunately, I am not able to locate my original CD.

Is there any other alternatives. Meanwhile, I am trying to locate my VS9 program CD.

About the second query, I wanted to have the movie/slide show wizard templates to be transferred to VS10. There is nothing about it in the forum postings.

Regards,

Pillai

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:20 pm

Steve,
Doesn't re-installing/repairing VS9 replace the ulead files in the ulead common files directory?
Asking this because VS10 would then be using VS9 common files directory and not it's VS10+ common files distribution.
The common files directory is confusing, also the reason you had the importing dvd problems. The programs share the importing DLL file(s).
And removing a program doesn't always work because it leaves the files in the common directory which can still be uncompatible with another version.

I've reverted to a completely different method of dealing with this.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:33 pm

etech6355 wrote:.......I've reverted to a completely different method of dealing with this.

Are you going to share that method with us?
Regarding the replacement of dll files etc, again this varies between individual programs where some only replace older versions but others replace full stop.

Perhaps I should have also advised the user to back up the folder
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems
first so that the existing files there are also preserved and can be restored.

Often I go very deep into the computer and when describing a procedure can overlook some steps that other users may miss. It's a bit like driving a car where you tend to think about the journey and not worry about the familiar landmarks such as traffic lights, pedestrian crossings and so on. You know they are they and react accordingly without really thinking about them!

Thank you for pointing out the dangers concerned.

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:56 pm

Are you going to share that method with us?

I don't think my method is easy to implement, I have shared this possible conflict previously on other threads as a troubleshooting step.

The end result is
When I run VS10+ it runs with it's set of distro common files.
When I run MF6+ it runs with it's set of distro common files.
I do this by renaming/moving/copying the /common files/ulead systems/ directory.

Having done this I can have repairs, patches & installations mix the files but retains a troubleshooting base repair point. I don't have an easy answer if there is a conflict. I started doing this only because if I un-installed a program, say VS7/9/10 the removal of the program doesn't remove these files, it this is where there is a conflict remove/repair/re-installation didn't work.
On my machine:
VS10+ with MF5+ sharing files I had some problems with VS10+ capturing HDV. Re-installing/repairing VS10+ did not fix this problem.
VS10+ with MF6+ sharing files VS10+ works properly.

VS10+ with MF5+ sharing files I had some problems with VS10+ capturing HDV. According to MSP8 users installing MSP8 then repairs VS10+ for HDV capturing if you had installed MF5 after VS10+. The only files that link all these programs together that can cause a conflict are the files they all share.

Personally I think they should change this shared common files method. Seems to me it would be very hard to test a program and duplicate the shared files because of all the different products that do share these files.

My method along with all your ulead products installed would be impossible or very hard to administrate. But a few ulead products isn't that hard.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:04 pm

John,
Actually what you do is not very different from a safety net I devised some years ago where I made copies of the common files folder with a suitable name tag so that I could retrieve earlier files that may have been replaced.
Interestingly the problem I had after installing MF6+ was with a newer dll file.
Replacing it with one of the older ones worked.

However...... I am mindful that between us we are getting too deep for our forum members who may get confused.

Going back to my original post about renaming VS10, anyone following this suggestion - please also make a back up of the other folder I mentioned in that later post. To date this method has not caused me a problem, but I am sure if a problem pops up I can offer some solutions.

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:12 pm

However...... I am mindful that between us we are getting too deep for our forum members who may get confused.

Ha, I'm laughing, I was hoping you wouldn't have asked me to share my fix.
I only wanted to point out there can be conflicts that repair/un-install doesn't fix.
Yes, it is to complex and one reason I can't easily post a fix.

ramdaspillai · Post by **ramdaspillai** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:22 pm

Hi, Steve,

1. Can you explain me the method to back the common files (sorry for my ignorance in handling these basic functions).

2. Is there a way to copy the movie wizard templates from VS9 to VS 10.

Thanks

Pillai

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:02 pm

Hi Pillai

I think you need to find the VS 9 CD.

If you have a conflict between 9 and 10, you need to re-install both¡K¡K A Clean Install.

Like many on the forum, I run several versions of Video Studio without problems.

Pillai¡K¡K..what operating system are you using on your computer.
There was a problem with VS 9 crashing using Win 2K.?????????????
You can fill in the details in ¡¥your profile¡¦

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:36 pm

I have several Ulead applications among which the last 3 VS.
They all continued working without any glitch.

I find it reassuring that when a newer program is installed, the basic common dll files get updated to a newer status and profit to all the other Ulead applications.

I take it for granted that they only use the same names when they tested the dll to be fully compatible with previous programs. After all it's common only to the Ulead subdir, not the whole machine.

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:18 pm

I find it reassuring that when a newer program is installed, the basic common dll files get updated to a newer status and profit to all the other Ulead applications.
I take it for granted that they only use the same names when they tested the dll to be fully compatible with previous programs. After all it's common only to the Ulead subdir, not the whole machine.

After installing many software packages first releases I find it reassuring to make sure I backup my OS partition before installing any software

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:53 am

ramdaspillai wrote:Hi, Steve,

1. Can you explain me the method to back the common files (sorry for my ignorance in handling these basic functions).

2. Is there a way to copy the movie wizard templates from VS9 to VS 10.

Thanks

Pillai

Regarding 1.
Copy and paste
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems
To a new location on your computer, perhaps
C:\copy\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems

Regarding 2.
in my post:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 8317#68317

sjj1805 wrote:.......
Regarding the Wizard Style Templates.
These rely not just upon several files being in place in various sub-directories but also involved extensive editing of various 'ini' files.
I consider this to be too dangerous to tamper with which might cause VideoStudio to stop working and so I am unwilling to delve into any modifications of this type.

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:24 am

etech6355 wrote:
I find it reassuring that when a newer program is installed, the basic common dll files get updated to a newer status and profit to all the other Ulead applications.
I take it for granted that they only use the same names when they tested the dll to be fully compatible with previous programs. After all it's common only to the Ulead subdir, not the whole machine.
After installing MF4 & MF5 first releases I find it reassuring to make sure I backup my OS partition before installing any software :)

Right, but since I do that weekly it's not something I think about.
USB drives are such a wonderful invention.

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:43 pm

I've had some software hose a system pretty good.
One installation of the Indeo codec is an example. For some reason whoever wrote one particular installation package it searches all your drives for other installations of the indeo codec, this includes all the drives active on the machine instead of just the default OS and it's partition. If someone has large drives (like we all do now), and a few of them it takes a very long time for their install program to complete.
To interrupt this search process corrupts the OS, If a drive has error the install is interrupted by the system, leaving the OS corrupted.

The indeo codec installation distributed by ulead works and no problems.

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