Anyone else for VS11?

gordonwd · Post by **gordonwd** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:33 pm

I have been a computer professional for the last 40 years, so I know what I am doing around them. My current PC, running XP Home, has literally dozens of applications installed on it: software development suites, graphics programs, office suites, photo album managers, device-specific software bundles, genealogy, financial and tax programs, mapping programs, media management suites ¡V the whole shootin¡¦ match. One reason I rarely upgrade to a new PC is that it takes weeks for me to reinstall, repatch, and reconfigure all my software.

That said, the only application out of everything I have that consistently crashes on me ¡V or crashes at all, for that matter ¡V is VS10+. This is the same problem that others have experienced where you can open an existing project, sit back and do nothing for about 15 seconds, and it crashes with the ¡§Unable to read memory at¡K¡¨ error. I have tried everything that Ulead suggests and even followed instructions here to set up a special video-editing hardware config and user account, but with the same results. And Ulead tech support¡¦s suggestion to essentially reformat my disk and reinstall XP and VS10+ from scratch is ludicrous considering what I use my PC for.

So my only solution is to either go back to VS9 or VS8 and accept some loss of features, or hope that VS11 will be a fresh start and fix this problem. Not that I have any word of an impending release, but after spending a half hour last night trying to get VS10+ running in a stable mode so I could re-render some old projects, I am feeling pretty annoyed by it all.

BTW, I have been using Visual Studio and Photoimpact through many different versions over the years, and this is the first time one of those products has been this unstable on my PC.

stelch · Post by **stelch** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:49 pm

Join the club!!!

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:00 pm

Like you, my editing pc is my home pc. I too have "the whole shootin' match" (it wasn't until recently, though, that I bought our 14 year old son his own laptop, along with is IMs and iTunes - so now I can actually get on the computer to do some editing). But, I must confess, I have never had any stability problems with v10+. Not that it helps your situation any, but I doubt Ulead will "fix this problem" if nothing is apparently broken, from their point of view. I'm sorry you haven't been able to resolve your problem.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:13 pm

Hi

I have used Video Studio from version 5, yes version 5, I now have VS 10,
I have never experienced crashes or freezes of my program or operating system under normal operation.

Ok

If you revert to an earlier version use VS 9.
VS 8 was the pits as far as I am concerned.

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:19 pm

Your aware of the applications directory where ulead stores it's configuration files under the "All Users" profiles under "Documents & Settings".
Ulead also writes some config files to your user profile directory, mine is:
C:\Documents and Settings\MY_UserName\Application Data\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio\10.0

Whenever VS10 or other ulead products don't startup I'll move/delete or rename this directory. When the program is executed it will recreate this directory. This directory also contains a cache directory.

I also have a feeling that under the common files/ulead systems/ directory may contain files that work with one program and maybe conflict with another ulead app, of course they are supposed to certify this before releasing, but it only takes one file to cause a conflict.

VS10+ & MF6+ run great on my machine. But I don't throw all these other programs into one XP OS system partition. On this machine I have 3 partitions that Multi-boot into XP OS (fat32) same physical harddisk, only one XP OS has virus protection. This way I can keep programs from conflicting with one another. It's been my experience not to overload windows with applications like you have installed because when there is a problem it's extremely hard to troubleshoot & repair.
But, VISTA will solve all these conflicts!! Right!

BuZZarD · Post by **BuZZarD** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:56 pm

Mine rarley crashes in vs10, whereas vs8 always crashed, vs9 occassionally did.

Every now and again, some of the features such as the multiple overlay, share video online option completely remove themselves and reinstalling the program doesn't help.

I'd like to see more content such as filters and more options to manipulate them.

If there is a vs11, then it can only be a good thing.
However, I don't have enough p roblems to complain.

roy wood · Post by **roy wood** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:25 am

I have been a computer professional for the last 40 years, so I know what I am doing around them.

Then perhaps your to 'Close to the Trees to see the Wood' the answer probably lies in the next part of your post:

My current PC, running XP Home, has literally dozens of applications installed on it: software development suites, graphics programs, office suites, photo album managers, device-specific software bundles, genealogy, financial and tax programs, mapping programs, media management suites ?the whole shootin?match....

As a computer amateur of 4 years experience I am constantly amazed that people expect to load a multitude of programmes many of them un tested by different software companies all sharing the same resources onto a single PC running XP Home and expect it to work perfectly and when it doesn't lay the blame on one programme.

Since your a 40 year professional couldn't you lay your hands on a spare Tower set up specifically for Video Editing then you wouldn't have to wait for VS11 to edit your video.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:01 am

Not so long in the tooth as the other guy, I've only been using computers for about 25-30 years now.

What I do when I want to try out some new software is to load it onto my back up hard drive first to see if there are any side effects.
Once I am happy with it then I will load it onto my normal hard drive.

It only takes one piece of badly written or faulty software to cause havoc that can take days to rectify. I have even known software effectively kill off a piece of hardware - by this I mean hide it from windows, such as a DVD drive. I have even known software fool windows into believing that an IDE drive was a SCSI drive (works perfectly or course when you boot from a different hard drive.)

Yep.... there's bugs out there, software is only as good as the HUMAN who wrote it.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:15 am

software is only as good as the HUMAN who wrote it.

Or as good as the human who uses it. It sometimes is a PICNIC (Problem In Chair, Not In Computer).

Not to say that's the case with you Gordon!!!

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:46 pm

Or as good as the human who uses it. It sometimes is a PICNIC (Problem In Chair, Not In Computer).

It not always the person in the chair.
ATI had in the past released video drivers & video/audio codecs that weren't compatible with all directx calling functions. They also didn't and still don't clean up after themselves after un-installing the ati software.

Programming isn't perfect. On a Mac machine the programmers can compile the programs for a specific hardware based machine using the specific operating system. This eliminates so many problems.
In windows the interface is DirectX. I think programming for a windows based machine isn't easy and can be a nightmare of problems.

Windows is known as "All or None"
Vista will fix all of this, I'm sure of it...

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:24 am

etech6355 wrote:Windows is known as "All or None"
Vista will fix all of this, I'm sure of it... :)

Hear! Hear!

I'll stick to my Win2000 Pro until at least SP2 of Vista (and without that fancy Premium thing please).