Vista Ultimate 64 bit

legalguy · Post by **legalguy** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:42 am

I saw some comments on Vista compatibility, but I want to be sure before I buy. Is there anyone running VideoStudio on Vista Ultimate 64 Bit?

If so, what is your experience?

Thanks

legalguy · Post by **legalguy** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:58 pm

I guess the answer is - not compatible with vista 64 bit.

Bugs66 · Post by **Bugs66** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:31 pm

I could not get the trial to work correctly. No audio at all. However the video editing seemed to work. But if you can't get any audio to work then it is useless. Unfortunately the trial doesn't let you install the patches or updates so I have no way to know if it is compatible or not. I won't buy it either until I know.

CS3 Premiere is coming out but costs quite a bit more. I am still looking for a solution for my HDV.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:47 pm

Video Studio 11 will be released any day now. It should be fully Vista-compatible. I am holding off from even bothering to install VS10 on my one computer which has Vista installed...

Kaledi · Post by **Kaledi** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:48 pm

Ken Berry wrote:Video Studio 11 will be released any day now. It should be fully Vista-compatible. I am holding off from even bothering to install VS10 on my one computer which has Vista installed...

I can confirm that VS10 works just fine with Vista Ultimate 64bit. The only caveat to this statement is that the Aero interface switches to basic mode - but I think this happens with all version of Vista when VS10 is running.

As a rule of thumb, I think I'm correct in saying that a 64bit OS does not really impact on software, but it does with hardware; i.e. the 64bit OS has 32bit translaters to execute software in a 64bit environment, however, you cannot use 32bit drivers in a 64bit OS.
Does this make sense?

TubaDad · Post by **TubaDad** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:06 am

I am running VS10+ on Vista 64bit. Not terribly happy with my results, but I am getting by until VS11 ships. I sure hope it cures all the ills.

VS10 is crashing regularly, I would say that it is very unstable, whether running with other applications or alone. i have very few TSRs, is that still a term or am I showing my age, running. it is a new install on a new machine, so I have not had the opportunity to load many things that would cause issues yet. The interesting thing to me is when it is crashing and when it is not. It is not crashing where it used to, when I would write a DVD to a disk or image. It is crashing when I am trying to edit. When I go to a spot, where I am considering putting a bookmark, and play several times to narrow down just the right place, it crashes. I have to remember to save every time I change the clipping or set a bookmark. The nice thing is that with the new PC it reloads very fast, and since I jsut saved I am at the right place. Then it is good for anywhere from 3-5 plays and it crashes again. I did mention that it was crashing regularly, didn't I?

64bit v. 32bit makes a difference with the software too. Things written for 32bit will generally run on a 64bit system, but they don't always run as well as if they are on a 32bit system. I don't know the details about why, but I do know as I am looking for software to load on my 64bit system, I am running into a few of those walls. Seems like most companies feel if you are running 64bit you should be part of a corporation or something because no one is making home software for 64bit. Like I said most will run, but if it is something that has to interact with the system at the driver level, like motherboard monitors, there is a big difference in 64bit v. 32bit.

Just my current experience. Anyone know when VS11 will be shipping? I know this is around the time to expect it.

legalguy · Post by **legalguy** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:26 am

Thanks for the feedback. I feel like an idiot for selecting 64 bit. I thought I was packing my new laptop with all the bells and whistles. I had no idea it would be so hard to find software that runs correctly.

BTW: it is embarassing, but I knew on sight the dreaded, old term you used: TSR - for all you youngsters, Terminate and Stay Resident.

TubaDad · Post by **TubaDad** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:08 am

Don't give up on 64bit too fast. I feel that the drivers and software will catch up. Considering you can buy a 64bit capable PC for under $600, they will have to. This is a problem for early adopters all the time. Like Ken mentioned on another thread, I too normally wait for the early adopting fools work out the bugs (OK, I took a few liberties with Ken's statement about waiting before jumping to the new operating system) but this time I decided to jump in with both feet. I actually like Vista, and I might like 32bit just as much. I believe that things will catch up quickly. Microshaft put a lot of pressure on the software companies by forcing OEM hardware providers to go with Vista on new machines. I have also found that the applications that are 64bit aware, mostly Microshaft at this point, can fully stress the processors, and that is what we need. Heck, I look forward to seeing VS11 fully stress both processors and knock down my rendering times. As of right now I only get about 50% utilization with VS10, but despite the crashes, I just keep getting right back in and finishing my work. I guess I am just not ready to jump to something else. I was with the audio sync problems with VS8, but not this time. Now, with that said, I sure hope Ulead ships VS11 soon, they're killing me and I have a couple of big projects to throw together at the end of the month.

Hey legalguy, we are not old until we start reminescing about the VIC-20 and TSR-80. Oh those were the days ... to forget.

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:03 am

HAL.. .. never died

S t i l l . . H e r e

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:01 am

TubaDad wrote: Hey legalguy, we are not old until we start reminescing about the VIC-20 and TSR-80. Oh those were the days ... to forget.

You forget too fast then you begin to mix TSRs with TRS-80.
Ah the 32-characters-per-line aluminum-paper printer...

Condemor · Post by **Condemor** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:41 am

I have used only VideoStudio 9 and I am really happy with it.
I did not bother trying v10 since the only benefits seem to be HD support, which I won't use and maybe more overlay tracks (oh, and you can put the Preview window on the left or the right. WOW!

)
Is it really worth it or might require higher PC specs and run slower?
What about v11? Will it make rendering faster or will make me spend money on more memory, etc.?

Basically, new versions of VS = higher system requirements?
If I don't need HD, Vista support, etc. should I stick to v9 or will I really benefit from v10 or 11?

Thanks

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:43 am

I would hang on a short while, the release of the next version of VideoStudio traditionally appears at this time of the year.

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:38 pm

Condemor wrote:If I don't need HD, Vista support, etc. should I stick to v9 or will I really benefit from v10 or 11?

Besides the wait for the "11" specs, the most meaningful benefits of v10 were the multiple overlays, easy if you want to add three arrows to a video, to show "here and here" f.i., and the inclusion of the MF5 engine, with transitions from Menus to Titles and smartscenes.

The rest is effectively for novelties like 5.1 audio, HD contents and other MPG4 or other exotic formats, of no interest to the average video-camera-to-make-a-DVD user, certainly in PAL country where Dolby is not needed, but well included in the package, and in the price..

I bought it for the overlays and the anti-shake filter (I am not quite good without my tripod). It was a half-win.
6 video overlays are fine but 3 video + 3 audio would be better (music1, music2, for overlays, and sound effects, maybe a 4th for spoken comments) and the anti-shake is a complete failure in average cases.
I did use the trial but 30 days is short (you don't try everything every night, I would wish it was 12 hours of use instead of 30 calendar days) and I thought I was not able to use the filter correctly.

You can bet I will think long and deep about V11.

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