MF6 & dvd duplicator problem

rbh5 · Post by **rbh5** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:04 pm

I video some school events, edit & burn with Movie Factory 6 onto a DVD-R. I then put the master DVD into a duplicator, to burn 7 copies at a time for the students. My problem is that during duplication, MF 6 videos do not copy properly. They seem to hang up & freeze when replaying a copy. I've made copies of videos from Roxio, from camcorder to DVD recorder, from other software programs - and have never had this problem. I've made copies of about 20 videos, using other software - with no freezing issues - so it's not the burner that is the problem.

Any thoughts?
This is really going to be difficult & extremely time consuming if I have to burn each copy from my computer

I have used Memorex & Sony DVD-R discs, with no difference. These seems to be the 2 makes that work best.
thanks,
Robin

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:02 pm

This is really going to be difficult & extremely time consuming if I have to burn each copy from my computer

Are you saying the original copy that MovieFactory 6 burns plays correctly?
I would think the ones that MF6 burnt wouldn't play correctly.
Use another dvd reader playback device to test the original dvd MF6 burns, not the burner that burnt the dvd.
I would also burn the dvd at 4X, the MF6 uses the MAX setting. It's under the burning options.

What speed are you burning at and do you have any packet writing software installed such as Roxio "Drag2Disk", Sonic "Record_Now", Nero "InCD", Ulead "Data-Add". The above software can affect burning dvd's.

I would create an ISO file from MF6 burning screen instead of burning the dvd directly.
Then you can burn the ISO file using any DVD burning software.
MF6 can burn the ISO separately. From the Launcher Screen it's "Copy Disk" -> "Burn From Disk Image". Burning as a separate process can be more reliable.

Also if "QuickDrop" is running in the background disable it. To prevent "QuickDrop" from loading you change this selection under it's preferences or options. Right-Click on the "QuickDrop" Icon (lower right of taskbar), select "Preferences" and uncheck "AutuLoad when window starts".

Remember to manually set the burning speed to 4X. This is the first step when troubleshooting burning problems (drop the burning speed).
After testing at 4X then higher speeds can be tested for reliability.
Also when burning ISO DVD images you can also manually set the burning speed & number of copies.

rbh5 · Post by **rbh5** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:14 pm

Yes, the original "master" plays correctly on any computer, on our old Sony dvd player, and a newer Panasonic dvd player.
I try the master on all of these, because I'm never sure what the other people will be using - who receive the copies.
The copies from MovieFactory do not play correctly on anything.
Copies from MYDVD, direct video-dvd recorder, and Photo Story 3 will play on anything listed above.
So, it's definitely a MF problem - not the duplicator or my dvd burner on the computer.

I was burning in 16x, which the duplicator will copy. I will try 8x and 4x and see if there is a difference - thanks, I hadn't thought of that.

I do not have any of the software that you listed. I have Sonic MYDVD which came with the computer, and the Photo Story 3 that I love for quick & easy slideshows.

I had already disabled the motion menu, that was creating problems.
I will disable Quickdrop. But, what does Quickdrop actually do?

How do I create an ISO file?

many thanks!
Robin

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:14 pm

I would normally agree that creating a DVD Image file would be a good way to burn multiple discs (just re-burn the ISO Image).

However, in this case I'm not sure it will work because the OP appears to be using a Duplicator machine. I'm not sure if the Duplicator expects a valid DVD to duplicate, or whether it has an internal hard drive and can burn multiple discs from a DVD Image file

Regards,
George

rbh5 · Post by **rbh5** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:25 pm

Yes, sorry if that is confusing.

I have an external DVD duplicator machine that will burn 7 copies of a DVD simultaneously. It's really a cool toy, and I love it.
At times, I have created up to 100 copies of slideshows and/or videos for students to keep.

It does/did have a hard drive, but I took it out. It seemed to create more problems with copying data to a hard drive, and then burning. So, the ISO file is probably not convenient/efficient for me.

Far easier & more efficient to copy the original "master" dvd. It will copy almost anything that is not copy-protected.

thanks,
Robin

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:25 pm

You mis-understood. I didn't say to use the ISO file on the duplicator.
I said create an ISO file and burn the Master on the computer using ulead or other software. If you contact ulead tech support it's the first suggestion they would make. Burn the ISO file as a separate process. It's more reliable. This method is also in the MF6 "ReadMe" file under "TroubleShooting". It's been there since MF4.
The ISO file after burnt to a DVD at 4X Speed on your computer will create the Master DVD-Video disk, which will be the master dvd for the disk duplicator.

I didn't mean to say port the ISO file to the duplicator. I only stated that the burning feature in MF6 WHEN burning iso files has a mulitple copy feature if you got stuck and had to make multiple copies on the computer INSTEAD of using the duplicator.

I would think the duplicator would need a harddisk for buffering data, otherwise it's performing al it's copying "On The Fly".

I think it's very hard to troubleshoot this problem and the first logical step is to burn the MASTER at 4X speed. Then the duplicator also at 4X.
Then step-up from there. Sounds more like a mechanical problem to me so I would first lower to burning speed.

I don't know what duplicator your using but the ones I've seen and used store many ISO images on it's harddisks for future burning.
They also give you the selection of "On The Fly", Buffered and also create a disk image of the dvd for future use (iso file).

rbh5 · Post by **rbh5** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:57 pm

4x seems to have worked, I will have to play around with a few videos to make sure.
8x didn't work either, program locked up on the older DVD player.

I have not used the dup's hard drive at all, found it wasn't very user friendly and would create some new & interesting problems.

I cannot find the MF6 "ReadMe" file, nor could I find the Troubleshooting. Could you provide the link, please.
I found that I could burn the video into an ISO file on my hard drive, but I'm not sure what to do after that.

thanks,
Robin

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:42 am

I found that I could burn the video into an ISO file on my hard drive, but I'm not sure what to do after that.

I'm glad you found it after I posted how to burn the ISO file. It's a good method.

Here is how to burn the ISO image file from your harddisk to the DVD using MF6. As I previously posted.
MF6 can burn the ISO separately. From the Launcher Screen it's "Copy Disk" -> "Burn From Disk Image"

rbh5 · Post by **rbh5** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:53 pm

Sorry, but that type of copying was actually worse. The picture/screen kept flashing & the picture quality was much worse on my older Sony dvd player. It worked better on the new dvd player, but I'm making copies for families that might have older players. So, I need it to work on both.

It did copy quickly, in less that 2.5 minutes.

Burning in 4x mode seemed to work the best, and copied fine. There is a problem when motion is activated in the menu, no matter which speed is used.

Many thanks for your help. I'll use the 4x mode, which seems to dup just fine.

Robin