How many installs?

rlphoto · Post by **rlphoto** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:44 pm

Hello, I have more than one computer in my home and was wondering how many different computers I can install video studio on. This info is no where to be found in the FAQs.

Thanks!

Randy

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:24 pm

As with almost any piece of software of which I am aware, unless you are specifically buying a licence for multiple computers, the EULA means that you can only install a single copy of VS on one computer. But I suspect you won't have the thought police knocking on your door...

railroadguy · Post by **railroadguy** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:30 pm

Ken Berry wrote:As with almost any piece of software of which I am aware, unless you are specifically buying a licence for multiple computers, the EULA means that you can only install a single copy of VS on one computer. But I suspect you won't have the thought police knocking on your door...

Correct. Since VS does not "phone home" as part of the install you will be OK. At one time I installed Photo shop on my desktop and laptop, because I can not be using both at the same time, I was probably OK doing this. Now however, Photo shop also "calls home", so when I am on the road and need to do a job I have to fall back to an older version on the laptop.

rlphoto · Post by **rlphoto** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:04 am

railroadguy wrote:
Ken Berry wrote:As with almost any piece of software of which I am aware, unless you are specifically buying a licence for multiple computers, the EULA means that you can only install a single copy of VS on one computer. But I suspect you won't have the thought police knocking on your door...
Correct. Since VS does not "phone home" as part of the install you will be OK. At one time I installed Photo shop on my desktop and laptop, because I can not be using both at the same time, I was probably OK doing this. Now however, Photo shop also "calls home", so when I am on the road and need to do a job I have to fall back to an older version on the laptop.

Did you know that you can have two installs with PS CS2 and it is perfectly OK with them. Since most pros have a desktop and a laptop both. And it is very easy to deactivate one of them and activate it on a third machine. I have CS2 and I have it legally activated on two machines.

Which is why I was wondering about video studio. I have no intentions of letting all my friends install it because It is cheap enough for them to go and buy if they want it. But, I have several computers under a single owner, "me" and I shy away from software that locks me down to one install. It was my understanding that Adobe created elements hoping a cheaper version of PS would entice people not to hack PS so much.

Thanks!

Randy

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:42 am

The end user Licence Agreement is found in your installation disc/folder and is named license.txt.

Ulead Systems Inc.
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2. Use of the Software: You May:(1) use the Software on any single computer, provided that the Software is in use on only one computer at a time. The software is " in use" on a computer when it is loaded into the temporary memory(i.e. RAM) or installed into the permanent memory (i.e. hard disk) of that computer. (2) make a single copy of the Software solely for backup or archival purposes. (3) permanently transfer all your rights to use the Software to another person or legal entity provided that you transfer this Agreement, the Software, and all accompanying written materials, provided that you retain no copies of the Software or written materials and that the other party agrees to the terms of this License Agreement. You May Not: (1) make, or have made, any form of copy, whether digital, printed, photographic or otherwise, of the Software, except insofar as such Software may be incorporated by you into on-screen or printed material. (2) place, or have placed the Software on an electronic bulletin board or other form of on-line service. (3) use, or have used, the Software in any form of pornography, or in any matter which is in any way defamatory of any person or business entity in any such image, or which implies any form of endorsement by the Software, its suppliers, its licensors, or any individual or entity depicted in the Software . (4) reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble or otherwise attempt to discover the source code of the Software. (5) modify, adapt, translate, rent, lease, loan or create derivative works from the Software. (6) export the Software in any form without the appropriate United States and foreign government licenses.

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rlphoto · Post by **rlphoto** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:46 am

So I guess that multiple installs is OK as long as they are not used by multiple users at the same time. Works for me!

LGO · Post by **LGO** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:48 am

rlphoto wrote:

So I guess that multiple installs is OK as long as they are not used by multiple users at the same time. Works for me!

Huh? Did you read the same thing I did?

Maybe I read things wrong. How do you interpret the second sentence of paragraph 2 in the EULA (the part Steve highlighted in red)?

BrianCee · Post by **BrianCee** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:30 pm

Well I interpret it the same way as rlphoto - to me it quite clearly says there are no restrictions on having it on any number of computers as long as you only use one at a time.

If you are only allowed to put it on a single computer why is it necessary to say it can only be "in use" (loaded in RAM) on any one computer at a time, the stipulation is redundant if you are only allowed to install it on one computer.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:46 pm

I beg to differ. It states it is "in use" if it is installed to the HD. If you install it on 2 computers, it is "in use" on 2 computers which, by their definition, is in violation.

But to me, having it installed on 2 different computers, and using it on 2 different computers simultaneously, are two differents things. As Ken stated, you won't have the police knocking on your door.

As for the redundancy of the statement, whoever wrote that obviously was from the Department of Redundancy Department. (A Monty Python gem

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railroadguy · Post by **railroadguy** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:36 pm

sjj1805 wrote:
2. Use of the Software: You May:(1) use the Software on any single computer, provided that the Software is in use on only one computer at a time. The software is " in use" on a computer when it is loaded into the temporary memory(i.e. RAM) or installed into the permanent memory (i.e. hard disk) of that computer.

Yes my friends, another example of lawyers helping lawyers. The ambiguous way this is written, and most EULA's are, is open to interpretation.

They could say "you allowed to install this software on ONE computer and must be uninstalled from said computer if installed on another", but that is way to easy and no lawyer would ever write that.

Post by **Ron P.** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:25 pm

I agree with BL, and if you don't try to read into it, what is not there, then it is clear. Of course I've had years as a law enforcement officer, where I've had to constantly try to figure out legal nonsense.

1. It states that you may use on any Single Computer.
2. It may be in use<---Those are the key words that the EULA uses,
3. On any one computer, at a time.

Now what the EULA does is provide a definition to In Use.
1. In Use is:
a. When it is loaded into RAM.
b. When it is installed<--Keyword again, onto a Hard drive.

So according to the EULA, you can only install it on 1 computer, because to use it, you must install it right...

However I've never tried running one of these applications via a server on a network. In doing so, it would be installed on just one computer, however could be accessed by any number of different computers. To stay inline with the EULA, only 1 of those PCs could access it (load it into RAM) at a time....