MSP 8, MPEG4 and Youtube...

asande · Post by **asande** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:50 pm

Has anyone used Ulead's MPEG4 for creating videos for upload to Youtube?

I've been playing around with a couple of different methods (output to Quicktime, WMV, after-the-fact converters, etc), but have generally been unhappy with the quality of output.

Youtube's quality is dubious at best, but from looking at others' videos it seems others are getting somewhat better quality that I am. Youtube suggests: "... the MPEG4 (Divx, Xvid) format at 320x240 resolution with MP3 audio" as the best video format to use.

Just curious if anyone else has messed around this...

BTW, I'm using MSP 8 (all SP's applied) on an older Athlon XP with Windows XP Pro.

Regards, Al

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:08 am

I haven't had chance to do it with MediaStudio yet but it should be similar to the way you do it in VideoStudio.

VideoStudio: Rendering for You Tube.

Gorf · Post by **Gorf** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:34 am

I thought YouTube and its ilk use Flash for video?

Whatever they use - the whole point is that you can upload videos in any format and it gets converted at their end. I uploaded a video last night in WMV format and about 15mins after the upload, it was available to view. I used the WMV9 LAN profile @ 768kbps.

asande · Post by **asande** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:02 pm

sjj1805 wrote:I haven't had chance to do it with MediaStudio yet but it should be similar to the way you do it in VideoStudio.

VideoStudio: Rendering for You Tube.

Thanks for the link. I see that this assumes usage of the MPEG4 output plugin (which is extra cost for MSP8).

Has anyone used the MPEG4 plugin successfully for this purpose?

Regards, Al

asande · Post by **asande** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:06 pm

Gorf wrote:I thought YouTube and its ilk use Flash for video?

Whatever they use - the whole point is that you can upload videos in any format and it gets converted at their end. I uploaded a video last night in WMV format and about 15mins after the upload, it was available to view. I used the WMV9 LAN profile @ 768kbps.

I've got about 10 or 11 videos up there now - but I don't seem to be getting the quality that others do...

How was the quality of the WMV that you uploaded? My first few used a similar profile for WMV8, then I tried a few Quicktime files, and the last one used an "aftermarket" converter (which I don't recall the name of at the moment).

My videos are at www.youtube.com/hollowaybaral

Regards, Al

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:24 am

Your video "3 days North of 60" reminded me of something I did several years ago with my cine camera. My Grand Parents back garden hadn't been touched in years and so I mounted the camera in the bedroom window and shot a few frames. Cleared the ground and shot a few more frames. Dug it over and shot a few more frames. When the vegetables began to appear - a few more frames etc.

Perhaps you could post a link to your videos here:
Video
Please prefix the post with "Member Sample Video:"

Thank you.

Gorf · Post by **Gorf** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:35 am

asande wrote: How was the quality of the WMV that you uploaded? My first few used a similar profile for WMV8, then I tried a few Quicktime files, and the last one used an "aftermarket" converter (which I don't recall the name of at the moment).

Started from DV, and encoded to WMV because there's a 100MB limit on YouTube uploads.
Quality is OK in my eyes, but I'm not expecting HDTV

- I suggest creating a profile at 450x338 using a frame rate that matches your video, then encode at a data rate that makes your finished WMV as close to 100MB as possible. If you don't want to wait for a 100MB upload, encode it at a rate that gets you a finished WMV you are prepared to upload.

Haven't managed to get it to deal with widescreen - don't even think that it can - so you'll have to letterbox your clip yourself.

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:57 pm

Gorf wrote:I thought YouTube and its ilk use Flash for video?

Whatever they use - the whole point is that you can upload videos in any format and it gets converted at their end. I uploaded a video last night in WMV format and about 15mins after the upload, it was available to view. I used the WMV9 LAN profile @ 768kbps.

I read somewhere that if you convert to Flash (FLV) and keep it under 100mb that they don't re-encode. I think it has to be Flash 7's Sorenson Spark (not the newer Flash 8 VP6).

ymmv,
George