time re-maping

[johnsweet]

hi everybdoy,

how can we do time re-maping in video ( few seconds fast and few seconds slow motion effect and repeat same procedure again...

your reply would be highly appreciated.

I am using Media studio Pro 8

Thanks.

[MrA]

Not complaining, but, can this topic be moved to the more general "video" forum?

I'd like to also know what exactly you are trying to achive, maybe in more detail?

I may be able to help, and then, I may not be able to help.

As understood, you have a clip you want to slo-mo, then, standard speed, then speed up?

[johnsweet]

Thanks for the reply.

yes, same thing in a single clip need to make diffrent motion effect....
by speeding up little seconds and slow motion little seconds..agin.....
you must have seen in tv adverstisements and hollywood action movies.
I need to know whether I can make it using media studio pro 8 or i have to buy any 3rd party plugin for that ?

Awaiting reply

Thanks

[MrA]

Actually it's very easy.. Set your clip, then right click to get the menu pop-up, then click the "speed" selection. From there, set the speed of the clip. You can get quite "fancy", from there.. You are really limitless on what you can do. Let your imagination run wild..(and your clip!)

[johnsweet]

hi,

noted you reply, Yes i can do it that way splitting bye scene and seletct each clip and can put diffrerent speeds. i have alrady tried this way before. after the you encode we wont satisfy with result as the motion of the clips wont be that smooth what we expected...

I heard it can be possible with adobe after effect or conopous edius..
but both are expensive..... I was checking with forum people this could be possible with ulead media studio pro-8

if possible please shift this message to general forum that anybody can
help me out.

Thanks.

[heinz-oz]

What you fail to understand is this: Digital video does not have a speed as does analog tape. Just run the tape faster and... voila, slow down the tape and... voila.

Digital video runs at the speed determined by your TV standard, 25 frames per second for PAL and 29.97 fps for NTSC. That's it. Some players allow you to slow down the replay but that is a different matter.

For MSP or any other NLE, including the ones (the expensive ones) you quoted, to speed up a video you have to delete a few frames, linear to the speed increase you want, to slow it down you have to duplicate frames accordingly. Any movement is bound to be blocky because intermediate frames only repeat the previous one. There is no data contained in your video to generate these frames with a partially advanced move for moving objects. Similarly, when discarding frames, the incremental movement data of the discarded frames is lost. More expensive programs may have better algorithms to generate intermediate frames when slowing down a clip.

[johnsweet]

hi, thanks for the reply..

I think you guys didn't get my point properly...

Kindly check following link...

http://ediustraining.grassvalley.com/index.php

go to Highlight of edius v.4, expand the option and
check catagory 1.6 (last one (time- re-maping)

this is I need to know whether possible with ulead Media Pro or not..
Please reply if anybody has clue ...

Thanks

[Devil]

No, it's not possible. It seems rather gimmicky to me. Why do you want to use it?

[Ron P.]

I think what you are after is the Variable Speed option in MSP8. With it you can set various speeds on a clip without having to split it up, ie; start normal, slow way down, speed up fast, then whatever from there..

However like Heinz stated, to accomplish this data needs to be added or removed. For example in any NLE Canopus or otherwise slow-motion is not True Slow-motion. The only way that true slow-motion can be accomplished is with special high-speed cameras.

[Devil]

Yes, but the Variable speed option does not maintain the same clip length as in the example shown. You can speed it up and slow it down (up to 14 intermediate keyframes) but the clip length will vary. In the example, the clip length is a constant. However, if this is OK for the OP, then I'll modify my answer from no to yes!

[Ron P.]

I would agree with you Devil, if the OP is wanting to maintain the clip length. Like I stated, "I think" that may be what he was looking for. That is of course the closest MSP can come to it..

[heinz-oz]

Yes, but the Variable speed option does not maintain the same clip length as in the example shown. You can speed it up and slow it down (up to 14 intermediate keyframes) but the clip length will vary. In the example, the clip length is a constant. However, if this is OK for the OP, then I'll modify my answer from no to yes!

I would like to be able to slow down in traffic with my car and still get there at the same time , however, when I speed up I do it because I want to get there faster

How do you expect to speed up a clip and have the same duration? It will have to be shorter or you need to fill the discarded frames with something other than the original footage. It doesn't make sense. What's even more confusing is when you slow down a clip (it needs to fit additional frames to do that) how can you have the same duration?

I actually checked the calender to make sure it wasn't April 1st

[Ron P.]

It would seem illogical that you can change the speed but not alter the length/duration of a clip. However according to Edius, their Time Remapping does just that. I wouldn't have a clue how they do that though..

That is a nice NLE program, but $$$$. The system specs on the low-end requires a P4 3.0Ghz, but it is recommended to use an Intel Xenon 2.8Ghz Dual Core. A friend of mine use this program and hardware, and runs it on a special built machine---4x 2.8Ghz Xenon Dual Cores. He claims he can edit, encode multiple tracks of HDV and 3D, and his machine is barely working, and it shows that it is using 8-cores..

[Devil]

As an analogy, stretch a piece of elastic between two fixed points. Grab the middle and drag it to one side, towards one of the fixations. The elastic gets further stretched on one side but relaxed on the other, but the overall length changes not. If you speed up a part of the clip, the rest slows down (or vice versa). MSP does not do this. It is more flexible than Edius because it does not impose the clip length. If you speed up part of a clip, the rest is not altered, so the clip becomes shorter. To go back to my analogy, if you stretch half the elastic, with Edius, the rest sags; with MSP, it doesn't because the fixation point is removed to keep a constant tension on the rest.

[heinz-oz]

Sounds like a lot of expensive humbug to me. No idea where I would want to use this "feature"