Insufficent Memory in PI

heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

wolverine wrote:
heinz-oz wrote:
wolverine wrote:Can you even print that large or do you have it printed by a professional?
To make a photo quality image using RA4 process the image has to be 300dpi at the size you want the final print to be.
I agree. However, dpi only comes into play when printing, it doesn't have an influence on file size. It determines the physical size of the print based on number of pixels you have per side of your image.

You are mixing dpi with ppi. An electronic image does not have a resolution nor does it have a physical size, its only dimensions are the number of pixels and its color depth.

An image of a given size has a file size of xx MB on your HDD. It will print in different sizes with different dpi settings. These dpi settings have no influence on the file size, that will still be xx MB, regardless of the print resolution.

Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_per_inch also.
wolverine

Post by wolverine »

heinz-oz wrote: An image of a given size has a file size of xx MB on your HDD. It will print in different sizes with different dpi settings. These dpi settings have no influence on the file size, that will still be xx MB, regardless of the print resolution.

Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_per_inch also.
Yes, that is true.

The fact of the matter is PI11 and PI9 have file size limitation. Unlike CS there is a limitation to how large of an image you can create. A 23MB jpeg file (approx. 1GB uncompressed) is about the limit PI can handle
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

And where did you get that wisdom from?
Storia

Solved my "Insufficient Memory" Problem I think...

Post by Storia »

I had crash about a month ago & had been running PI 8.5 for years with no problems. Tried PI12 and it was okay, but I had already purchased 10 whenever it came out and had it on disk, so before I shelled out the bucks for 12, decided to try 10.

It worked fine for a bit, then it started with the memory issues when trying to align objects, etc. Having worked with this software for over 7 years now, I know it's not the most efficient program around, so I pecked my noodle over what would be "building up" on my system cache-wise that might make this software do fine for a while & then suddenly start having memory issues.

I knew my internet temps-cookies, etc. were set to empty when browser closed and/or restarted, etc.

Decided to check my IE browser cache setting - somehow it was set to the max @ 1024MB. Not sure how this happened, as my techie son reloaded XP-Pro on my new drive for me and set everything up, so I hadn't checked all settings.

I re-set browser cache to 250MB (highside of "recommended") and whalah!!!! PI10 is working fine again now.

I don't print graphics, but I do quite a bit of browser previewing, as well as use a code generating software for my website that requires page browser preview before it will publish - maybe that software re-set the cache or something, but thought I'd share this. It may be that this will happen again (memory issue), but for now it's working just fine, and some of my images are well over 1MB for sure before compression & save - work with quite a lot of .psd files because PI8 wouldn't deal with .psp file extensions - 10 seems to handle them fine.

I shall stop gabbing now...............all the guys are saying "I could have said this in 10 words or less"........... :roll:
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

Thanks for sharing that with us, very much appreciated. We don't get too much feed back from people with problems. Often we don't know if our advice helped or they simply gave up.

Thanks again.
Storia

Post by Storia »

I'm not known to give up on much of anything LOL.....it's a "Texas" thing :)

I hope this will be a solution for some.
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

If it helped you, it should also help others. :wink:
HarryF

Post by HarryF »

Good evening,

thanks to Storia's "Texas" thing ;) .

Unfortunately it doesn't work here. Maybe it's because I'm not using PI10 but PI12.

I'm working with PhotoImpact since release 5 now and I'm really a fan of this program to do my web graphics work and other stuff. After a computer crash I got a new one with Vista Ultimate and there I installed PI10. But trying to align any object brought me the memory error. So I thought maybe PI10 doesn't work with Vista and I bought PI12 but I got the same error again.

Of course I tried the suggestion of Storia but it didn't help. Does anyone have any other idea how to solve this problem? I'd like to go on using PotoImpact because I don't have the time to learn another graphic software after all these years (in fact I don't want to).

I'd appreciate any suggestion.

Thanks in advance.

Harry

P.S. My system should have more than enough power to work with PI12 (Core2Duo E4400, 2 GB RAM, Vista Ultimate 32-Bit, 256 MB graphic card)
tmr

Post by tmr »

Sometimes exact alignment is critical and very frustrating when dealing with this error. It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does, sometimes aligning fewer objects at one time (especially when aligning objects that have been grouped with other objects) gets around this. Not always possible, but can sometimes be done in steps, a few at a time.

Also, quitting and restarting PI sometimes works, but it looks like the memory is still assigned if you don't run some other program before using PI again. If not, powering down and rebooting seems to work, but again, not always. You can have a session where it doesn't fail at all and the next time it fails every time.

The error message seems to be an accurate one and it is indeed a memory error. Looks like memory that has been used before is not released back into the pool.

My machine has high memory capacity and it's very disappointing that Corel has not taken this problem seriously. I work in Photoshop and Illustrator much more often now and use PI less and less and only for a few specific features. Started with PI years ago and sorry to say goodbye to an old friend.
UPI.Man
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Post by UPI.Man »

First post - hi all!

This "insufficient memory" bug is annoying and, like the last poster said, Corel needs to take it seriously.

memory was good the last i tested it
2G ram
2G swap (e:\)
~2G of temp space (d:\)
~47G free space (c:\)

Was working on a very small file and tried to resize an object (forgot if i set it as path or image) and got the error. I converted the object type and it works.

Worked on it a little more an *poof* crash to desktop, and this has PLAGUED UPI for years and years and they STILL can't get it right. I've run several versions on many different machines, 2 OS's and a multitude of different configurations and am still frustrated by this nonsense.

signed: burned up :)
if it ain't broke, you didn't hack it enough!
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