Video Flickers when editted in VideoReDo

MikeC · Post by **MikeC** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:32 pm

I was finally able to burn two DVDs using MovieFactory 3.0, yet the third failed. After looking through this forum for solutions, I noticed a few folks refered to using VideoReDo to trim the MPEG files so that MF3 doesnt spaz on the file size.

In VideoReDo, I was able to trim the MPEGs to the size I wanted, import them into MF3, make the chapters and burn the DVD. All appeared to work like a charm, except when I played the DVD on a TV, when I noticed that there are some definite flickers every two or three seconds. So, as a test, I burned another DVD using the un-editted MPEG and it seems to play fine. Curiously, when I import the editted MPEG's in MF3, it seems to play smoothly using the viewer on the computer, but flickers when played on the TV.

I have tried everything that I can think of to eliminate this flicker. In VideReDO, I have checked and unchecked the ULEAD and resync options. In MF3, I have checked and unchecked the Anti Flicker, the Don't Convert compliant MPEG options and a host of others.

I know my setup works well because I was able to burn two good DVD's without any issues. My only reason to use VideoReDo was to trim and remove unwanted segments of video that MF3 seems to choke on.

Any advice anyone can provide would be muchly appreciated, as I have been struggling for 2 weeks to get these videos onto DVD, and am loosing patience.

Cheers,
Mike

phd · Post by **phd** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:00 pm

Generally, in VideoReDo you run with Ulead option checked. For DMF, check do not convert compliant. Author the DVD to a folder on your hard drive and burn as a separate step. If DMF is not reencoding, it should only take about 20-30 minutes to create a full DVD folder on your hard drive. Also the space required to author to your hard drive should just be a little more than the cumulative total of the MPEGs themselves.

What capture device are you using? What field order is it capturing? It sound like DMF is switching field order on you or you captured in progressive, the Authored with interlace or vice-versa.

Also, if its only flickering once every 2-3 seconds it might not be field order and related to a compatibility issue among the type of media, the authoring/burning program, and your DVD player. If you can try this. After authoring the VideoReDo edited files to a DVD folder, play them on your PC to make sure everything is OK. Then try burning the DVD folder to a DVD using a different program such as Nero.

Also, try posting this at the VideoReDo forum as well. The author might have some other ideas.
http://www.drdsystems.com/forum/phpBB2/index.php

MikeC · Post by **MikeC** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:36 pm

Thanks for the quick reply.

When I ran VideoReDo, I had it default with the Ulead option checked on. I also tried checking and unchecking the Do Not Convert Compliant. I have not tried making folders nor burning as a seperate step.

I captured 5 tapes worth of home movies originally on a Dazzle unit using the MovieStar5 software that came with it. I spent 2 weeks trying to get that software to work with my DVD writer and finally gave up and went out and bought Ulead MovieFactory 3.0. I was thrilled to death when I installed the software and burned my first DVD right away. After that, I couldnt get any other DVD's to burn because I kept getting a fatal error in windows. I finally figured out that the tempory converted file got to a specific size and then crashed the program. Checking through the forum, I saw a few suggestions, which I did, that included re-installing the software, updating the first patch and adding the new burner files (I did not apply the Doble Layer support patch). In MF3 I UNCHECKED the "Do Not Convert Compliant" option, everything worked. I burned two more DVD's without any problems. On the third DVD, I had to edit two MPEGS to trim and remove bad video. This cause MF3 to give me incorrect file size so I couldn even try to burn it. I then tried to check and uncheck the "Do Not Convert Compliant", with no luck, and thats when I applied the Double Layer patch, hoping to fix the file size issues. That patched cause me to get errors saying "cant reuse cache". thats when I went to VideoReDo.

I dont know what field order the Dazzle unit uses. I will find out when I get to work tomorrow. I think that may be my best bet... to re-capture just the parts of the VHS tape I want and not rely on editting software after the fact.

Mike

phd · Post by **phd** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:10 am

Which Dazzle device do you have. I have the DCS200 which has the C-Cube chip I believe. With all the software that gets installed, there is a little extra utility called DVXCELtest. Its a little capture utility that you might want to use rather than the Moviestar software to capture. It allows you to adjust a wide variety of capture parameters.

Also check if you have a video editing package called Arcsoft Showbiz with it. If you have it as part of a MyDVD package, uninstall Arcsoft. It causes conflicts with Ulead products (or at least that's been my experience.)

Also, I remember the DCS200 and Ulead products conflicted a little. I remember I had to install in a certain order for them to play well together. I will check the installation order and let you know what worked for me.

The last time I used the DCS200, I was still using DMF2 and didn't have a problem. Haven't used the DCS200 for a while so I never tested it with DMF3. I had tested the DCS200 with VideoReDo and didn't have any problems.

Also the Dazzle products using MovieStar 5 captured audio natively in LPCM. Is this still the audio format you are burning your DVD with? or are you changing the audio format and possibly reencoding the video also. Check how long it takes to author the DVD to a folder on your hard drive.

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:43 am

The latest DL patch should be installed.
The patch doesn't just add DL capability, it also fixes
a few bugs.
The latest patch fixes a few things that have been wrong.

MD

MikeC · Post by **MikeC** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:13 pm

Thanks for the heads up. I had added the DL patch during several of my re-installs but didnt like some of the default options that it had preset, like "deleting" clips instead of retaining them in edit mode, etc. and I ran into the dreaded "cant reuse cache" when I had this patch installed. Perhaps it was due to other causes not related to this patch, I dont know.

Anyways, I was able to resolve my original problem, which was a very distinct flicker in the video when played on TV. Apparently, to my embarrasement and to wasting about a dozen DVDs, it appears that something went wrong during the original capture of that particular VHS tape. I had captured 5 or 6 tapes one day and after that went back to try and make DVD's out of all of them in chronological order. I got the first two DVDs to burn without problems and then had all kinds of dificulty with the size of the third one. Thats when I used VideoReDo to trim, cut and merge the MPEG segments. After I created the edited files, I deleted the original capture MPEGs to free up some disk space, and burned the third DVD. Thats when I noticed the flickering, which I assumed was the result of VideoRedo edditting, since the first two DVD's I made using the same process looked fine. I didnt have the original captured MPEGs to look at, otherwise I would have noticed it right away.

So, I recaptured that third tape the other day, ran it through VideoRedo, then through MF3 and I am now truly a "Home Video to DVD Burning Fool"!!!!!
The movies look great, my kids are thrilled to look back at their early childhoods, and life is grand.

Thanks to all for all the quick responses... and have a happy holiday

Mike

phd · Post by **phd** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:03 pm

Thanks for the update.

There's a good lesson to be learned by all of us with this: Always check your output files before deleting the original source material, so you can trace down where the actual problem is.