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serf · Post by **serf** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:03 pm

hey
ok I have been reading all about the Vista dilemma and it appears to me that ULEAD is goanna pull the plug. Bummer! Although not perfect I think it is probably the most intuitive program I've used.

So what software is there that is comparable ? Can Vegas do all this? I must have the Vid Effects at least this robust and all the other lil perks too.

Any suggestions?

Oh and I have been trying to log into the main ULEAD site to DL the Cool 3D trial version but I cant log in there. just here. Anybody else having this prob?

htchien · Post by **htchien** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:30 am

serf wrote:ok I have been reading all about the Vista dilemma and it appears to me that ULEAD is goanna pull the plug. Bummer! Although not perfect I think it is probably the most intuitive program I've used.

Maybe. To me I'm still using MSP and UVS on XP and they are working well.

For Vista certified video editor from Ulead, you can look for Ulead VideoStudio. It has the Vista certified update pack so you can use it on Vista.

http://www.ulead.com/vs/

serf wrote:So what software is there that is comparable ? Can Vegas do all this? I must have the Vid Effects at least this robust and all the other lil perks too.

Any suggestions?

Maybe. However, if you want to discuss about competitor products, you should go to their forum to discuss since this is Ulead forum.

To me I still cannot get used to Vegas but it's my own opinion.

serf wrote:Oh and I have been trying to log into the main ULEAD site to DL the Cool 3D trial version but I cant log in there. just here. Anybody else having this prob?

You should register a Ulead member account on Ulead site so you can use that account to download the trial softwares. The member account is not the one you login on this forum.

http://www.ulead.com.tw/ulead/member/me ... .cfm?FS=us

Hope this helps.

H.T.

serf · Post by **serf** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:38 pm

Video Studio 10 is an outright joke compared to MSP
sorry that wont do. not enough canned graphics and I think it only allows one vid track lol. I use at least 10 in the more aggressive effect shots

Thanks for your feedback. Guess I'm-a going shoppin'

htchien · Post by **htchien** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:57 am

Hi Serf,

serf wrote:Video Studio 10 is an outright joke compared to MSP

It depends on how you see it.

I guess you did not know that all MSP features are built from the technologies first used in VS. Ulead just made MSP to open up more options which are been hidden in VS with more professional UI.

serf wrote:sorry that wont do. not enough canned graphics and I think it only allows one vid track lol. I use at least 10 in the more aggressive effect shots

VS has 1 video track, 6 overlay tracks, 1 title track and 2 audio tracks (voice and music), but yes if you need 10 or more tracks you can see other video editors. However, I won't be surprised if Ulead put more video tracks into the next version of VS.

serf wrote:Thanks for your feedback. Guess I'm-a going shoppin'

No problem, and wish you luck.

Regards,
H.T.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:01 am

And good luck, you cannot have enough of that when it comes to Vista.

Antonio G · Post by **Antonio G** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:06 pm

Difficult to contribute to this forum....
When I asked the question about MSP future a long time ago (Corel wasn't in yet) I felt almost as if my doubts where pure nonsense.
By the time I just asked if the new owner's strategy would keep MSP or would sacrifice it and just leave VS and focus on the consumer market.
It proved I was right, as we can see now
Video market changed a lot, VS is a good consumer product, sometimes it was better tham MSP in certain aspects - remember the MainConcept codec - but we must feel sorrow watching MSP leaving the big boys league and having to migrate to the consumer segment if we want to stay with Ulead products.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:36 am

Actually you can fool VideoStudio into thinking it has more than 6 video tracks.

You set things up using the available tracks and save that as a project file.
that project file can then be imported into a new project as though it was a fully rendered video. This means that you are now using just one video track.

It is the VideoStudio equivalant of a nested timeline.

jday · Post by **jday** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:29 pm

I understand what Steve is saying above, but his workaround (or "trick") is not a great solution IMHO (although it can be helpful in some situations). The reason I say that (and please correct me if I am wrong) is that it is NOT like MSP's nested timelines. In MSP, you can open a nested timeline and edit/make changes to the individual elements in it. Steve said you can import a project file as "though it was a fully rendered video." If that's the case, then the individual elements will not be able to be edited. Like I said, I haven't used VS since switching to MSP so I could be wrong about the latest version.

htchien · Post by **htchien** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:51 pm

You can still edit the project that is supposed to be used in the timeline.

For example, you import project A into project B as a video clip. You can still open project A to do some editing and it will be updated when you render project B.

That is, the project file A used in the timeline of another project (which is project B) will be rendered on-the-fly when you render project B. This should work in both UVS and MSP.

Hope you can understand what I'm trying to tell.

H.T.

jday · Post by **jday** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:18 pm

H.T., thanks for that clarification. Although not as simple as nested timelines in MSP, it is better than I thought. It just means having to switch between projects.

MrA · Post by **MrA** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:49 am

Just getting the news, MSP now not supported??? ROFL, damn, just bought it, and, all the support software that rolled around it.. Now what do I do? I really don't wanna dump my windows editing platform. It's what I am comfortably with. I am extremely happy with MSP.. All the best vids I have done, have been with MSP 8.

On another note: Poke at Black Lab, ... dude veoh cool, but, man, it sucks up bandwidth like a vampire wambat in heat...

htchien · Post by **htchien** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:59 am

Where did you see that MSP is not supported?

So far as I know, Ulead still provide tech support for MSP. You can still use it as well. If you are happy with it, then just work with it. There is no need to change that. Why let other people effect you?

H.T.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:01 am

Last time I checked, my copy of MediaStudio was still working

MrA · Post by **MrA** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:02 pm

Ok, maybe I misunderstand?? I understand that it IS being supported, but, for some reason I got the impression the package is being dropped altogether by Corel. Please correct me if I am wrong.. Hopefully it was in error, but, the news release does not mention MSP at all.. http://www.ulead.com.tw/ulead/UDNews/pr ... leases.htm

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:07 am

AFAIK, Corel have made no decision as to its future. Certainly, Ulead still support it, but I don't know what development is being conducted just now.

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