MSP Runs slower then...

Arekwp · Post by **Arekwp** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:14 pm

Sorry my englisch is beed.

Stupid speek.

I'm like UMS, and job Media Studio Pro 2.0, 2.5 ....... 8.0.

I'm heave Ulead Media Studio Pro 8 and Edius PRO 4.02, PIV 3.4 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 2 TB HDD (RAID SATA), Ati X1950PRO.

Ulead is very very slowly. Edius rendered video 3x faster. Sequence (TimeLine1, TimeLine2 ......) of UMS is always rendered, i'm only add two clips and one translation - this is stupid.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:50 am

Try Creating a Video Editing Profile

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:19 am

What would that achieve Steve? If all the other programs are working so much faster on this users machine he is the stupid one for still using ULEAD.

It's a lot of crap if you ask me. If I had all these programs and some would work as is claimed here, I would dump the snail and not even bother about posting here.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:25 am

The video editing profile is a method of turning off all unecessary background programs and processes that might be using up RAM and also processor power so that more of the computers time is concentrated on the task in hand. It also helps prevent conflicts with other software that may prevent the program from functioning correctly.

It is a method used extensively by game players.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:06 am

I am not questioning the validity of your method Steve. In fact, I have created a video editing profile on my own machine. What I am saying though is this: If all the other programs work as claimed by the poster (I don't believe they do) there is no need to create an editing profile because other programs work well without it

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:40 pm

Better still is a dual-boot system, where one boot is reserved uniquely for video work and the other for everything else. Of course, the video boot won't have any Internet connection, security gubbinsry or any proggy not designed exclusively for what you absolutely need for your video work.

Arekwp · Post by **Arekwp** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:55 pm

My system is for only video edition. UMS is 2-3x slowly than EDIUS.

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:31 pm

OK, instead of comparisons, give us facts.

1) what are you rendering/encoding?
2) what codec are you using?
3) what are your full project settings?
4) what are your rendering/encoding settings?
5) what is the length of your project?
6) how long does it take?
7) have you filled in your hardware profile?

Just as a guideline, taking a DV type 1 AVI file as a starting point, I can completely re-render it with MSP 8 in about 95% of real time and I can encode it to DVD compliant MPEG-2 at 6000 kbit/s CBR/192 kbit/s DD 2.0, 90% quality setting, at an average of about 110% real time, on an old P4 3.06 GHz HT system with 1 Gb PC2700 RAM and 400 MHz single channel FSB.

how does this compare with your figures?

Arekwp · Post by **Arekwp** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:06 am

Project MS-DV type-1, 4:3, 48kHz
rendered to
R1 - AVI MS-DV type 1, 4:3, 48kHz
R2 - MPEG 2 PAL 6000 CBR 90% Quality, Audio DD 2.0 - 256

1. create new time line
2. set active timeline1
3. add 5 clips 20 sec and transition - crossfade - 2 sec
4. create new time line
5. set active timeline2
6. add 5 clips 20 sec and transition - crossfade - 2 sec
7. set active MAINTIMELINE
8. Insert TimeLine1 and insert TimeLine2
9. set tranition 2 sec - crossfade

Length 3.02 - rendered R1 - 2 min 45 sec, R2 - 2 nim 30 sec

1. Insert all clip to MainTimeLine
Length 3.02 - rendered R1 - 41 sec, R2 - 2 nim 30 sec

This is stupid.
I'm like virtual time line.
PIV 945 (3.4 GHz Dual Core), Asus P5B delux, 2 GB RAM 667 Dual Chanel, Ati X550

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:08 am

Those are very good times, much better than I could do, but that is to be expected as you have a better system. I cannot see that you have anything to complain about with times of 82-90% of real time. Very good!

Arekwp · Post by **Arekwp** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:49 pm

>R1 - AVI MS-DV type 1, 4:3, 48kHz

R1 - 2 min 45 sec - used TimeLine1 and TimeLine2
R1 - 41 sec - used MainTimeLine only

Second R1 time is better and first. Should be identical.
But where prewiev live on 1394?
Work should be fast and nice. Unfortunately, program is hung .

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:09 pm

Sorry, but you don't understand the meaning of Smart Render. The 41 second figure is because SR does not need to re-render what has not been altered. Switch SR off and it would be just as long as the first one.

You can preview from IEEE-1394 in either of the capture systems (separate module or within the Editor)

Please excuse me, but do you really know what MSP is all about? Have you read the manual? Preferably, read Charlie Hills' book, as well.

wolverine4500 · Post by **wolverine4500** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:04 pm

Can you tell me, what that have to do with the topic "Update pack"??

I think, you should start a new topic for your discussion.

Post by **Ron P.** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:25 pm

You're right Woolverine, so I split the posts from the original topic...

wolverine4500 · Post by **wolverine4500** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:31 am

Thank you!

I am very interested in a Vista Patch for MediaStudio Pro 8.2
Ulead makes a secret about that, they don't tell, if a Patch come out or not.

I think, that's not nice for Ulead Users.
When they want to give up the product MediaStudio-Series and only continues the VideoStudio-Series (which is for more to simple, I cannot be there very creative!), they should tell us the people.

It's okay, if not, I can live with that.
Products come and go, but for the consumers it isn't fair to know nothing.

When they tell me, MediaStudio isn't dead and an Update or a new Version is in planning.
Okay, that's great, I can wait then with my video projects.

When they tell me, that MediaStudio hasn't future, I also have to respect that and have to search for another video project (which video-programm is like MedaiStudio, for the overlay and the function? I didn't found an alternative until yet).

But to say nothing? What can I do with nothing?
Can I wait or should I search another video-programm?

That's not fair!