What can I use with Vista?

dannyp · Post by **dannyp** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:18 pm

sjj1805

I don't know about Laptops with XP but in Israel (where I live) you can buy a brand new desktop with no operating system at all.
Be it a licenced OS or not that one installs on it is a different issue.

Have a nice weekend all
Danny

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:46 pm

Not at all! I had the choice and renounced on the eye candy of Vista.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:09 pm

I think this thread got crossed with another one somewhere where I mentioned that laptops are now only being sold in my region with Vista pre-installed. Desktops are not a problem you can get those from a computer fair with no operating system at all, or if you buy from a major retailer it is a simple matter of inserting your XP setup disc and reformatting the hard drive.

Laptops are a different kettle of fish, it seems that the modern ones are being sold with Vista pre-installed and due to the fact that have SATA hard drives, attempting to simply place the XP setup disc in the CD/DVD drive is not good enough. XP Setup will report "Unable to find any hard drives."

After inserting the XP setup disc and booting from it a message appears [Press F6 to install third party drivers] - this is where you have to load the SATA drivers. Only problem is XP looks for a floppy "A" drive and laptops don't have one

The only way is to try and get hold of an external floppy drive for a laptop - Are they still being sold in major Retailers stores? - or you have to slipstream the SATA drivers into a new bootable XP setup disc. This is quite a complicated procedure.

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:03 am

Many of the big manufacturers like Dell offer the choice XP/Vista/Linux even on laptops, if you ask them.

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:45 am

LimpMan wrote:that mean you guys must got old model.i don't mean old computer.

Can be, that's impossible to tell. Anyway every single spec item is the same as the folder (Vista version).
But if the only change in this model was installing Vista instead of XP, then how can we know? And why should we care?

The endpoint is downgrading to Vista will make the machine unusable because the main applications don't work on it (like C3DPS, DVDWS and others non-Ulead).

If we need to buy everything again...bad news. Then Linux would need to be checked again. or the Macs.

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:52 am

Devil wrote:Many of the big manufacturers like Dell offer the choice XP/Vista/Linux even on laptops, if you ask them.

Of course, and they have to, I work for a very large company and the IT people are not even considering the switch, the whole thousands of machines to upgrade, the support people to train, the stability issues, the compatibility with existing applications...

But we continue to buy replacement computers daily. And laptop or not they have XP.
In fact XP is for the new OS, the majority of the installed base is W2K...

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:11 pm

MS still sell XP to resellers at the moment. This will be stopping some time in 2008, when they will only be able to purchase Vista.

bhurst · Post by **bhurst** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:11 pm

elpedro wrote:Hi,

i work with Windows Vista 64. To get DVDWS2 to display the mpeg files properly i added the d3drm.dll to my system32 and SysWOW64 directory (i took them from a Windows X64 installation). 32 bit user would probably need the file in system32 from a 32 bit Windows version. The mpeg files look okay, but there is no audio.

Elpedro.

Has anyone solved the no audio issue. I installed the dll you refer to and that got the video going, but still no audio. My main reason for using DVD Workshop is to add subtitles, and it's kind of hard without the audio

Also, is there an easy way to set/adjust the subtitle timing. At first glance, it looks like I have to enter each time code manually.

Thanks!

B