numerical order when inserting stills into timeline

brucefl · Post by **brucefl** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:12 pm

When inserting stills for a project, is there a way to set it so they go into the order they are numbered? Seems some never go in right.
I have them numbered so far 1 - 418, when I try it for some reason 421 seems to end up in the first spot?
Actually the files would be 1.jpg thru 421.jpg , I have to recheck the slides, I could of mised a few numbers when saving the pictures.

Last project I did which was far smaller, I had to go 1 then go 1b, 1c and so forth. Any suggestions?
thanks

Bobm03 · Post by **Bobm03** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:51 am

Your numbering system has to have consistency in the 'number" (sorry) of digits.

If going from 1 to 99, (two digits), use 01,02,03....09, 10...99

If going from 1 to 418 (three digits), use 001, 002, 003,...099, 100....418.

You just have to think like your computer does.

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:32 am

Maybe I misunderstand what you say, but there is a bug in Windows at least up to W2000 when you select a range of files, where the last is first and the first is last, all the others being in right order.
Thus if you select 1-5 you get 5-2-3-4-1.

This is a Windows problem and Ulead can't do anything about it.

Sorry again if you're talking about something else...

Bobm03 · Post by **Bobm03** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:21 pm

daniel wrote:Maybe I misunderstand what you say, but there is a bug in Windows at least up to W2000 when you select a range of files, where the last is first and the first is last, all the others being in right order.
Thus if you select 1-5 you get 5-2-3-4-1.

This is a Windows problem and Ulead can't do anything about it.

Sorry again if you're talking about something else...

I cannot speak to a W2000 problem.

But you'll note that "my"

system, there are no dashes, no commas and no other identifiable mark. If you want to identify an image with a letter, then use 001, 001a (or 001A), 002 will follow.

I found this out with Windows 3.1 way back in 1993. Has always worked for me.

whoppke · Post by **whoppke** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:23 pm

bobmo3 has a good system.
When I save currently taken still pictures or video clips on my hard drive I ususally don't make a DVD out of them until the start of a new year. Thus I have a lot of pics to edit and when i do start to edit them I want them in chronological order, that is, from January thru December. Thats my preference. I don't want to do a lot of shuffling in the time line at edit time so when originally saving new pics from camera to the HD I rename each pic or clip thus:
(for pics or clips taken in 2006 for example)
2006a1 2006a2 2006a3 2006b1 2006b2 2006b3
a is the month of January; the a1, a2 and a3 are
sucessive pix taken in January

b is February; b1, b2 and b3 (etc) are sucessive
pix taken in Feb.
and so on

but I can't go past, for example, 2006a9 to rename the next pic 2006a10
because it will put a10 out of order in the folder. However I can use
2006a9a for the next pic and it will stay in order. I can even use 2006a9a1 and that
will stay in order too.
When i finally am ready to import all my pix and clips for the year to VS
for my project I navigate to the folder, highlight the last pic, press shift,
and click on the first pic and they all import in chronological order.
I did find some time ago that if you click on the FIRST clip and then shift
click on the LAST clip, the first and last are juxtaposed when they are placed in VS time line no matter how named.

whoppke · Post by **whoppke** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:24 pm

bobmo3 has a good system.
When I save currently taken still pictures or video clips on my hard drive I ususally don't make a DVD out of them until the start of a new year. Thus I have a lot of pics to edit and when i do start to edit them I want them in chronological order, that is, from January thru December. Thats my preference. I don't want to do a lot of shuffling in the time line at edit time so when originally saving new pics from camera to the HD I rename each pic or clip thus:
(for pics or clips taken in 2006 for example)
2006a1 2006a2 2006a3 2006b1 2006b2 2006b3
a is the month of January; the a1, a2 and a3 are
sucessive pix taken in January

b is February; b1, b2 and b3 (etc) are sucessive
pix taken in Feb.
and so on

but I can't go past, for example, 2006a9 to rename the next pic 2006a10
because it will put a10 out of order in the folder. However I can use
2006a9a for the next pic and it will stay in order. I can even use 2006a9a1 and that
will stay in order too.
When i finally am ready to import all my pix and clips for the year to VS
for my project I navigate to the folder, highlight the last pic, press shift,
and click on the first pic and they all import in chronological order.
I did find some time ago that if you click on the FIRST clip and then shift
click on the LAST clip, the first and last are juxtaposed when they are placed in VS time line.

Bobm03 · Post by **Bobm03** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:38 am

whoppke wrote:bobmo3 has a good system.

Works for me

whoppke wrote:~~~~but I can't go past, for example, 2006a9 to rename the next pic 2006a10 because it will put a10 out of order in the folder. However I can use 2006a9a for the next pic and it will stay in order. I can even use 2006a9a1 and that will stay in order too.

The "system" requires consistency.
Continue to use "a" for January, "b' for February, etc.
Determine how many photos you took in any given month.
Then follow my steps noted earlier.
If less than 100, then the "early" images would be 2006a01, 2006a02...
If less than 1000, then the "early" images would be 2006a001, 2006a002..
If less than 10000..you get the idea.
The leading Zeros are essentially fill material for consistency.

Tonight's "homework:" Suppose you have two cameras...

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:41 am

If your'e going to rename several pictures then you may be interested in a freebie:

The Rename
THE Rename is a program designed to help you to rename files and folders en masse with a number of possibilities and options.
This is a freeware program. You can use it in any situation (professional and personal use)
http://www.herve-thouzard.com/modules/w ... rticleid=1

thad · Post by **thad** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:59 am

Bobm03 wrote:Your numbering system has to have consistency in the 'number" (sorry) of digits.

If going from 1 to 99, (two digits), use 01,02,03....09, 10...99

If going from 1 to 418 (three digits), use 001, 002, 003,...099, 100....418.

You just have to think like your computer does.

I just created a folder that contains the following (21) file names 1.jpg, 2.jpg, 3.jpg....9.jpg, 10.jpg, 11.jpg....19.jpg, 20.jpg, and 21.jpg. No matter what view I use (details, list, etc) they stay in order. I then imported all 21 images into a project by using Crtl+A to select them all and they all came in 1-21. Just for grins, I changed the Details view to list them 21-1. Using Crtl+A, they all came in in reverse order (21-1).

Thad

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:04 am

It is good practice to use a numbering system like that mentioned by Bobm03. Some programs sort numbers correctly

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11

Unfortunately some other programs would sort the above sequence as

1-10-11-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9

To save you have to either remember, or test beforehand if the particular program you are working with sorts one way or the other, employ the system of padding out with leading zeros.

01-02-03-04-05-06-07-08-09-10-11

Will always be sorted correctly.

thad · Post by **thad** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:05 am

My directory looked like this...

Thad

thad · Post by **thad** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:11 am

sjj1805 wrote: 01-02-03-04-05-06-07-08-09-10-11

Will always be sorted correctly.

I agree Steve. That's the best method for new projects. I'm simply trying to offer a solution for when files are numbered 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11 etc.

Thad

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:32 am

For existing projects you can use 'The Rename' mentioned above.
You can then rename hundreds of files in one 'foul swoop.'

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:33 pm

Hi Thad and all

There is no problem when inserting clips when using vodeo studio 9

The problem exists with Video studio 10

Trevor

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:51 pm

Hi

When using VS 10 use drag and drop.

Search your hard drive for the images and select all.
Drag the first image to the timeline.
Clips will be in order

Ulead support have been informed of the problem, although VS 9 has no problem, i cannot see a fix being made for 10. Bit of a shame.

The problem has been reported in an earlier post, do a search.

Regards

Trevor