HDV source doesn't show up

cek4966 · Post by **cek4966** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:16 pm

I have a Canon XH A1 HDV camera connected with a firewire cable. The PC recognizes the camera with the "duh-dum" sound but the camera does not show up in the source list to capture video.

I tried to change the capture plugin to the HDV plugin but that's not one of the choices.

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling and same thing.

VS10 had worked with my Sony Hi-8 DV camera just fine.

tyamada · Post by **tyamada** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:36 pm

Page 109 of your users manual states you have to purchase separate software (Console) to be able to download video to your computer.

Even with the software I'm not sure if you could edit the video in Video Studio, you might need a codec.

Blairness · Post by **Blairness** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:39 pm

Hi there,

I also have an XH-A1 and can't seem to get Videostudio 10 to recognise it when it is in HDV mode. I've tried with the camera in SD and that works fine, but HDV doesn't want to work (I've changed the capture plugin from the 'tools' menu and it still won't work). I'm thinking I need a driver or something do I (I thought everything you needed was included with Videostudio 10)? I only have Win. 2000 SP4, is that a problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Blair

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:48 pm

Can I ask as a threshold question whether you are using vanilla VS10 or VS10 PLUS?? Only the latter is rated to work with HD cameras.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:49 pm

Did you read the post above yours?

Page 109 of your users manual states you have to purchase separate software (Console) to be able to download video to your computer.

Even with the software I'm not sure if you could edit the video in Video Studio, you might need a codec.

Blairness · Post by **Blairness** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:07 pm

I am using the trial version of Videostudio 10. I did read the post above mine, however it appears the poster has mis-understood what the manual is actually saying (not that I could find where it says anything like what they were saying... pg. 109 of my manual contains information on how to record still images on a memory card!). Canon console is software you have to buy off Canon and it CAN be used to capture footage off the camera, however it isn't NEEDED to be able to capture footage off the camera. There is a BIG difference!

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:28 am

I just read some of the specs on this cam. Looks like a really nice piece of equipment. I didn't read all the specs but it appears to record in many more formats than mine does (24P), if this cam records to tape in the HDV format mpeg2 transport stream then I would try this program to capture video and transfer from the cam.
Even though your using VS10 Trial it may convert the videos to program stream format, I don't know but it's worth a try.
This program HDVSplit is nice.

http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 057#108057

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:37 am

I only have Win. 2000 SP4, is that a problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Oh, I just read this, that's a problem. Even using XP you need Service Pack 2 installed. To use HDVSplit you also need XP_SP2.
To use VS10_Plus which supports HDV you need XP_SP2. Also, VS10_Plus may not support your HDV cam because of all the modes it records in. It may work if you recorded in the HDV 1440x1080i/60i mode, can only guess because VS converts the tape transport stream to program stream when capturing.

tyamada · Post by **tyamada** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:44 am

Blairness:
FYI to capture HDV from any camera as far as I understand is that you have to have Windows XP with Service Pack 2 installed. SP2 has HD drivers built in.

Blairness · Post by **Blairness** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:25 am

etech6355 wrote:
I only have Win. 2000 SP4, is that a problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Oh, I just read this, that's a problem. Even using XP you need Service Pack 2 installed. To use HDVSplit you also need XP_SP2.
To use VS10_Plus which supports HDV you need XP_SP2. Also, VS10_Plus may not support your HDV cam because of all the modes it records in. It may work if you recorded in the HDV 1440x1080i/60i mode, can only guess because VS converts the tape transport stream to program stream when capturing.

"To use VS10_Plus which supports HDV you need XP_SP2". The 'system requirements' on the website say you can use 2000_SP4...? The trial version installed and runs fine (apart from the HDV capture), so surely it is compatible with 2000_SP4? I'm becoming more convinced that my assumption is correct, that I don't have the right driver/s (thanks tyamada). Does anyone know if/where I can get the needed driver/s for 2000?

etech6355 wrote:I just read some of the specs on this cam. Looks like a really nice piece of equipment.

Sure is! It's definately a good competitor against cameras at a similar price point (and above). That's why I want to get HDV capture to work, to see what it can REALLY do!

tyamada · Post by **tyamada** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:59 pm

I have Windows 2000 with SP4 installed on one of my computers, I've tried everything to get HDV capture to work with the computer. no joy.

Somewhere burried deep in Microsoft's knowledge base is a blurb about HDV capture not working with any version of Windows 2000.

To get your camera to capture in HDV your device must show up in the Device Manager under Sound, Video and Game controllers as a AV/C device, if it doesn't you won't be able to capture.

If you want to beat your head against a cement wall trying to get HDV capture to work with Win2K be my guest.

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:16 pm

Sure is! It's definately a good competitor against cameras at a similar price point (and above). That's why I want to get HDV capture to work, to see what it can REALLY do!

If your still using win2000 and in this category of hardware/software you may experience proper playback problems with your existing computer equipment.
For proper playback of HighDefintion video on a computer requires a HD Certified Video card & HD Certified Playback software. Existing software can play the files back but not properly reproducting the fielding information and all.
A Combination such as ATI X1650 & Power_Dvd7 / Windvd 8. I'm using this combination on a 2.8Ghz HT ASUS MB machine. Playback only uses approx 22% cpu usage for playback because of the certified HD combination of the video card & playback software.

To see what the cam can really do simply connect it via hdmi or component to a HDTV and view the footage. Should look great.

Blairness · Post by **Blairness** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:16 am

tyamada wrote:Somewhere burried deep in Microsoft's knowledge base is a blurb about HDV capture not working with any version of Windows 2000.

Couldn't find it. I don't doubt it's there, I'm just not keen on sifting through millions of articles that have nothing to do with my search.

tyamada wrote:To get your camera to capture in HDV your device must show up in the Device Manager under Sound, Video and Game controllers as a AV/C device, if it doesn't you won't be able to capture.

Where do I find this "device manager" in Win2000?

tyamada wrote:If you want to beat your head against a cement wall trying to get HDV capture to work with Win2K be my guest.

I think anyone with a PC takes on the role of a "head beating against a cement wall'er" as soon as they take it out of the box (hmmm... or before you take it out if your unlucky). Trust me, if I had any other option, I wouldn't be beating right now. You don't beat your head against a cement wall for no reason.

etech6355 wrote:If your still using win2000 and in this category of hardware/software you may experience proper playback problems with your existing computer equipment.
For proper playback of HighDefintion video on a computer requires a HD Certified Video card & HD Certified Playback software. Existing software can play the files back but not properly reproducting the fielding information and all.
A Combination such as ATI X1650 & Power_Dvd7 / Windvd 8. I'm using this combination on a 2.8Ghz HT ASUS MB machine. Playback only uses approx 22% cpu usage for playback because of the certified HD combination of the video card & playback software.

The plan WAS to capture footage on my computer (long story why I can only do it on mine) and then transfer it to a friends computer (which will handle playback of HD footage). So playback on my computer would not have been an issue (the very reason I was going to transfer it to my friends computer was that I already knew my computer wouldn't be able to handle playing it back).

etech6355 wrote:To see what the cam can really do simply connect it via hdmi or component to a HDTV and view the footage. Should look great.

Do you really think I'd go to all this effort when I could of just viewed it on a TV already

!? lol (if you haven't guessed I don't have access to one).

Well anyway I'm givin' up on this trying-to-get-it-to-capture-on-win2000. I guess I'll just have to wait until my friend gets a capture card for his PC. Thanks for putting up with me in any case.

MrA · Post by **MrA** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:57 am