DCR-SR80 Problem with VS9 - NO AUDIO!

bluemax786 · Post by **bluemax786** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:41 pm

Black Lab wrote:If you have a DVD compatible mpeg, and you have Do Not Convert Compliant Mpeg File checked, it should not re-encode your file.

Do Not Convert Compliant Mpeg File is definitely checked.

Here's the information for the files I am using:

MPEG files
24 Bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Lower Field First
(DVD-NTSC), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
LPCM Audio, 48000 Hz, Stereo
*EDIT* - Another program says this:

Video: MPEG2 Video, 720x480, 29.97 fps, 8579 kpbs
Audio: Dolby AC3, 48000 Hz, 2 ch, 256 kbps

This was from AVS Video ReMaker 2.2

Whenever I go to Video Studio Editor, and go to Share, then Create Disc, and add my videos, it says:

"File contains Dolby Digital audio tracks. DVD MovieFactory does not support this audio format. Do you still want to insert this video clip?"

Also, the audio DOES play in AVS Video ReMaker 2.2. I have the trial version, and it won't do full-length stuff like I need.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:53 pm

Whenever I go to Video Studio Editor, and go to Share, then Create Disc, and add my videos, it says:

"File contains Dolby Digital audio tracks. DVD MovieFactory does not support this audio format. Do you still want to insert this video clip?"

Now you've thrown us a curve ball. When did DVD Movie Factory come into the picture?

MPEG files
24 Bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Lower Field First
(DVD-NTSC), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
LPCM Audio, 48000 Hz, Stereo

These look like project properties. If your project properties are LPCM and your clip properties are Dolby, then it will recode your video. What are your clip properties? Right click on a clip and post them here.

It may do you well to read the Recommended Procedure.

bluemax786 · Post by **bluemax786** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:56 pm

Black Lab wrote:
Whenever I go to Video Studio Editor, and go to Share, then Create Disc, and add my videos, it says:

"File contains Dolby Digital audio tracks. DVD MovieFactory does not support this audio format. Do you still want to insert this video clip?"
Now you've thrown us a curve ball. When did DVD Movie Factory come into the picture?

MPEG files
24 Bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Lower Field First
(DVD-NTSC), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
LPCM Audio, 48000 Hz, Stereo
These look like project properties. If your project properties are LPCM and your clip properties are Dolby, then it will recode your video. What are your clip properties? Right click on a clip and post them here.

It may do you well to read the Recommended Procedure.

I don't know what DVD MovieFactory is. All I know is that when I follow the steps I mentioned, while using the Video Editor in Ulead VideoStudio 9 SE DVD, that's the error message that pops up. Perhaps DVD MovieFactory is a sub-program or something in Ulead?

The program that reported "LPCM" instead of "AC3" was VideoStudio itself. Maybe it is actually attempting to convert to LPCM, even though it says it's not?

If I could just get a damn copy of Image Mixer. It's the application that came with the stupid Sony camcorder. It allows you to manually convert the Dolby audio into other audio formats (so programs like Ulead SE DVD can actually edit them). The owner of the camera can't seem to find it, and Sony doesn't even offer the program online. Only updates. Ugh!

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:11 pm

MPEG files
24 Bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Lower Field First
(DVD-NTSC), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
LPCM Audio, 48000 Hz, Stereo

These are project properties, not clip properties.

If you right click on a clip the clip properties will look similar to this:

File
File name: C:\xxxxx
File format: Microsoft AVI Files
File size: 23,945 Kb
Frame rate: 29.970 frames/sec
Duration: 6.807 seconds
Data rate: 3512.11 kbps

Video
Compression: DV Video Encoder Type 1
Attributes: 24 bits, 720 x 480, 4:3
Total frames: 204 frames

Audio
Compression: DV Audio NTSC
Attributes: 48.000 kHz, 16 bit, stereo
Total samples: 326,726 samples

Again, if your project properties are set for LPCM (as you have indicated) and your clips are Dolby (which you think they are), then the video will be re-encoded because they are different.

PLEASE READ & FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDED PROCEDURE.

bluemax786 · Post by **bluemax786** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:28 pm

Black Lab wrote:
MPEG files
24 Bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Lower Field First
(DVD-NTSC), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
LPCM Audio, 48000 Hz, Stereo
These are project properties, not clip properties.

If you right click on a clip the clip properties will look similar to this:

File
File name: C:\xxxxx
File format: Microsoft AVI Files
File size: 23,945 Kb
Frame rate: 29.970 frames/sec
Duration: 6.807 seconds
Data rate: 3512.11 kbps

Video
Compression: DV Video Encoder Type 1
Attributes: 24 bits, 720 x 480, 4:3
Total frames: 204 frames

Audio
Compression: DV Audio NTSC
Attributes: 48.000 kHz, 16 bit, stereo
Total samples: 326,726 samples

Again, if your project properties are set for LPCM (as you have indicated) and your clips are Dolby (which you think they are), then the video will be re-encoded because they are different.

PLEASE READ & FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDED PROCEDURE.

Uhh chill out. I understand what you are saying. I just said in my last post that the clip properties were AC3, and that the project properties were LPCM. No need to say it all again. And I've read the tutorial. I've tried to force the program to not screw with the audio, but it is apparently doing it anyway. Everything is set to leave the audio alone, but it isn't. It is encoding it without my permission.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:48 pm

Uhh chill out.

Hey, I'm just trying to help you out, but you don't seem to understand the difference between project and clip properties.

You report that one of the properties (you say clip, but they are project) as being LPCM audio. Another time it's Dolby (AC3). If they are different you can't force it not to re-encode.

I'm thinking it's a limitation of the SE version. Again, it said in the SE version, via pop up window, "These files are MPEG2 and have AC3 Dolby Audio. We don't support that audio." I'm thinking that's a pretty good indication that......it doesn't support the audio

And this statement probably makes this whole thing moot. If you do, in fact, have an SE version then VideoStudio absolutely will not encode/re-encode Dolby. It's a licensing issue.

bluemax786 · Post by **bluemax786** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:57 pm

Black Lab wrote:
Uhh chill out.
Hey, I'm just trying to help you out, but you don't seem to understand the difference between project and clip properties.

You report that one of the properties (you say clip, but they are project) as being LPCM audio. Another time it's Dolby (AC3). If they are different you can't force it not to re-encode.

I'm thinking it's a limitation of the SE version. Again, it said in the SE version, via pop up window, "These files are MPEG2 and have AC3 Dolby Audio. We don't support that audio." I'm thinking that's a pretty good indication that......it doesn't support the audio
And this statement probably makes this whole thing moot. If you do, in fact, have an SE version then VideoStudio absolutely will not encode/re-encode Dolby. It's a licensing issue.

I completely understand the difference. Perhaps you didn't see my edit I added to the post? I added in two different properties - one for the actual mpeg file, and one for the project itself. The mpeg file reported AC3 audio, the project itself reported LPCM audio.

I know that it won't encode/re-encode Dolby. This is old news. It was stated earlier in the thread. I'm trying to figure out if we can possibly pass-through the video to a disc, without encoding or re-encoding anything at all. I can't seem to get the project to not have "LPCM audio" as the audio property. Any suggestions? Thanks again! You are helping a lot and in a quick manner

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:09 pm

If you have the SE version, then you can't choose Dolby as an audio property. I assume all that would be available to choose from would be MPEG (I believe that's for PAL region) and LPCM. I really don't see any way around it.

My suggestion? Fork over the $50 upgrade price and upgrade to v10+. Not only will you get Dolby, but Dolby 5.1 Surround.

bluemax786 · Post by **bluemax786** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:30 pm

Black Lab wrote:If you have the SE version, then you can't choose Dolby as an audio property. I assume all that would be available to choose from would be MPEG (I believe that's for PAL region) and LPCM. I really don't see any way around it.

My suggestion? Fork over the $50 upgrade price and upgrade to v10+. Not only will you get Dolby, but Dolby 5.1 Surround.

If I were going to be doing this a lot, I would easily fork over the money, but this is pretty much a one-time thing. And for work. They wouldn't reimburse me for the cost, either

The video is for a fundraiser we are doing.

I think the best bet right now is to get Image Mixer from the person who owns the camera. It allows you to convert the Dolby audio to a more generic format. Here's to hoping they can round it up.

Else it's going to be capturing the video with my DX2. Thanks so much for your help!

kphutch · Post by **kphutch** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:37 pm

Bluemax -- Did you ever find a solution? I have the DCR-SR 100 camcorder. I bought it 2 montha ago, and am now ready to burn some dvd's. I have the software that came with the camcorder, but after a brief trial, I am looking at buying the VideoStudio software. The Sony software is VERY limited. However, your problems concern me. I am in the process of downloading the 10+ trial as I write this.

Don't know if I'll discover anything, but will be to sure to post if I discover anything.

bluemax786 · Post by **bluemax786** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:54 am

I upgraded to VideoStudio 10 and it solved this audio problem. The audio works fine, now. However, a new problem started, when I went to VS10. Not sure if it's related to the camcorder files or not. Check it out:

http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 574#107574