Ok, so ive been asked to make a little dvd that eventunally will wing its way to Canada - old cine footage - priceless family treasures - that with the aid of VS will bring it back to life for a new generation of family...anyhow enough of the background story...
So, my question. Living in good ole cold blighty..can i burn a dvd from vs10+ onto a dvd that youll be able to watch in Canada? Do i need a special dvd for a start? Or just a case of perhaps, burning as norm, and letting the Canadian side sort out a special dvd player that will play region 1 or 2 etc?
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North America (Canada & USA) uses NTSC, so you should make an NTSC DVD.
The framerate will be converted from 25fps to 29.97. I don't know if this will cause any quality problems... A lot of people worry about it, but movies are 24fps, and they are converted to NTSC every day....
There are no region codes on homemade DVDs, so the only issue is NTSC or PAL.
Ah, England.... I had to look that one up...Living in good ole cold blighty..
The framerate will be converted from 25fps to 29.97. I don't know if this will cause any quality problems... A lot of people worry about it, but movies are 24fps, and they are converted to NTSC every day....
There are no region codes on homemade DVDs, so the only issue is NTSC or PAL.
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Despite Doug's good advice, I would still try sending them a PAL video to see if their player will play it. Most PAL DVD players these days will play NTSC discs (particularly the cheaper generic brands). And apparently the reverse is mostly true, though not as widely as PAL ones playing NTSC.
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OK, send 'em one of each! 
One more thing. Don't use MPEG-2 audio on an NTSC DVD. NTSC players are only required to play Dolby (AC3) and LPCM. (PAL players must play MPEG-2. So, you have one more audio-option when making a PAL DVD.)
I've never had my hands on a PAL DVD, but my NTSC player will play DVDs with MPEG audio, and it will play a CDs with MP3 audio files.
One more thing. Don't use MPEG-2 audio on an NTSC DVD. NTSC players are only required to play Dolby (AC3) and LPCM. (PAL players must play MPEG-2. So, you have one more audio-option when making a PAL DVD.)I've never had my hands on a PAL DVD, but my NTSC player will play DVDs with MPEG audio, and it will play a CDs with MP3 audio files.
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As usual can count on quick advice on here so big thanks, happy to hear that looks like it wont be anything like the nightmare i envisioned...
Think ill opt for dvddougs idea of sending them both versions...who knows if they like the dvd ill be offered a place to stay and be able to leave cold Blighty for colder Canada.
Think ill opt for dvddougs idea of sending them both versions...who knows if they like the dvd ill be offered a place to stay and be able to leave cold Blighty for colder Canada.
So are we saying send a PAL DVD to the folks with the NTSC DVD Player (hoping that their NTSC DVD Player will play a PAL DVD), but if you do send a PAL DVD, make sure not to use PAL Compliant mpeg audio, because the NTSC DVD Player might be able to play the PAL DVD, but not the pal-dvd-compliant -mpeg-audio 
(just kidding)
How about this -- author your PAL DVD the way you would normally. Then after completing your PAL DVD, change the preferences to NTSC, and burn another copy as NTSC (check your encoding settings to make sure you are using proper bitrates/field order/etc...).
Considering the source video is "old cine footage", the standards conversion will be "transparent" to the viewer as they concentrate more on the family and subjects rather than the standards conversion.
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(just kidding)How about this -- author your PAL DVD the way you would normally. Then after completing your PAL DVD, change the preferences to NTSC, and burn another copy as NTSC (check your encoding settings to make sure you are using proper bitrates/field order/etc...).
Considering the source video is "old cine footage", the standards conversion will be "transparent" to the viewer as they concentrate more on the family and subjects rather than the standards conversion.
Regards,
George
Just for the record, I routinely send NTSC DVD's to the UK to friends and relatives, who have no trouble playing them on their standalone (set top) DVD players onto their TV's, and I have no problems playing PAL DVD's sent to me from the UK on any of my players hooked up to NTSC TV's. Of course all my DVD players are cheap!
The MPEG audio thing is largely irrelevant - although MPEG audio is supposedly not part of the NTSC standard, in practice I don't think there are any NTSC DVD players that baulk at it.
Changing formats will necessarily be accompanied by a loss of image quality, so burning to NTSC would be my preferred option, but George's suggestion will cover all your bases.
The MPEG audio thing is largely irrelevant - although MPEG audio is supposedly not part of the NTSC standard, in practice I don't think there are any NTSC DVD players that baulk at it.
Changing formats will necessarily be accompanied by a loss of image quality, so burning to NTSC would be my preferred option, but George's suggestion will cover all your bases.
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Converting from NTSC to PAL is more than changing frame rate and then aspect size, it also requires a change in luminace/chrominace transmission.
Now doing it properly and getting good results for the treasured memories may prove to be cost prohibitive on your own, good standards converting software costs £300.
You could pay a professional to convert it for you, the smaller companies shouldn't charge an awful lot for this. Don't know wereabouts you are but I only charge £15 for straight PAL to NTSC conversion on same file type of about an hour in length (1 x dvd) bit more for PAL dv-avi to NTSC mpeg2, as it takes so much longer to do. But once you have an NTSC dv-avi file you can set your project settings to NTSC and do the rest of the work yourself as if you were working on a pal file.
The other option is to keep it in PAL, send it to them. If there player plays it all well and good, if not ANY PC with a dvd player installed will play it, so they could watch it on that.
Lastly the option is to ue something like VS to do the conversion and hope you don't lose too much quality.
Now doing it properly and getting good results for the treasured memories may prove to be cost prohibitive on your own, good standards converting software costs £300.
You could pay a professional to convert it for you, the smaller companies shouldn't charge an awful lot for this. Don't know wereabouts you are but I only charge £15 for straight PAL to NTSC conversion on same file type of about an hour in length (1 x dvd) bit more for PAL dv-avi to NTSC mpeg2, as it takes so much longer to do. But once you have an NTSC dv-avi file you can set your project settings to NTSC and do the rest of the work yourself as if you were working on a pal file.
The other option is to keep it in PAL, send it to them. If there player plays it all well and good, if not ANY PC with a dvd player installed will play it, so they could watch it on that.
Lastly the option is to ue something like VS to do the conversion and hope you don't lose too much quality.