Using Video Redo to render VHS to MPG via Ulead

Feff · Post by **Feff** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:42 am

Hi there,

I was wonderering if anyone knew how to get a video tape converted to MPG via Ulead (using v9se) then eventually to DVD after editing with Video Redo.

Video Redo is an excellent program and it takes about 10 min to render a 2 hour movie recorded on digital tv card. Then it only takes Ulead about 15 min to convert video and burn dvd (used to take 2 to 3 hours!!)

If i render a file which was a VHS conversion to mpg though, Ulead tries to render it again and it literally takes hours (4-5).

Does anyone know why Ulead will convert a digital file recorded on tv card in minutes but a file recording of VHS hours??

Thanks...

Post by **Ron P.** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:06 pm

was wonderering if anyone knew how to get a video tape converted to MPG via Ulead (using v9se) then eventually to DVD after editing with Video Redo.

Yes I know how to "convert" to MPEG, however I'm not sure what format you captured to, how you captured (what device you used)? To "convert" would be creating a video file, in which you would go to the Share step, select Create Video File, then select the appropriate format for your area (PAL or NTSC), DVD. This would provide an DVD compliant MPEG-2 video file from your project.

Taking 2-3 hrs is not that long, to create a video file, if for instances your project is 1-1 1/2 hrs long or longer. Generally taking 1.5 x as long as your video project is common. How your system is setup, how powerful a system you have, can increase or decrease this time. However I do not use VideoRedo.

You might want to read through From Camcorder to DVD tutorial.

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DVDDoug · Post by **DVDDoug** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:53 pm

VideoReDo does not render or re-render (recode) the MPEG. It's MPEG-in and MPEG-out with the same bitrate, resolution, etc. So, all it has to do is read and re-write the file with the changes. This should take about the same time as it takes to make a copy of the file on your hard drive (Copy -> Paste).

You can get similar results with Video Studio if you turn on Smart Render*, and if you check Do Not Convert Compliant MPEG files under Project Settings. Of course, that will only work if your audio and video are DVD compliant.

* Smart Render only applies to the editing process. If you are editing with VideoReDo, that should not make any difference. It's generally advised to not to use smart Render because you are more likely get "lip-sync" problems. Using VideoReDo for the editing step should help to avoid those common MPEG editing problems, but VideoReDo can only "cut & splice". It's not a full-featured video editor.

Feff · Post by **Feff** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:24 pm

DVDDoug wrote:VideoReDo does not render or re-render (recode) the MPEG. It's MPEG-in and MPEG-out with the same bitrate, resolution, etc. So, all it has to do is read and re-write the file with the changes. This should take about the same time as it takes to make a copy of the file on your hard drive (Copy -> Paste).

You can get similar results with Video Studio if you turn on Smart Render*, and if you check Do Not Convert Compliant MPEG files under Project Settings. Of course, that will only work if your audio and video are DVD compliant.

* Smart Render only applies to the editing process. If you are editing with VideoReDo, that should not make any difference. It's generally advised to not to use smart Render because you are more likely get "lip-sync" problems. Using VideoReDo for the editing step should help to avoid those common MPEG editing problems, but VideoReDo can only "cut & splice". It's not a full-featured video editor.

Thanks for both replies....

If I load a digital file (tv card recording) into Ulead and try to burn it on DVD, the converting process takes 2 to 5 hours.

If I load the same file in VideoRedo first and then save it - takes 5 - 10 min (i believe it does render the file) before loading into Ulead to burn on DVD, the same process takes only 10 min.

Apparently Ulead recognises that the file has already been rendered and converts the file in a fraction of the time.

But when doing it with a VHS to Mpg file done in Ulead as per previous post, it takes Ulead hours not minutes to convert.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:57 am

I guess that is because it thinks the file is not DVD compliant.

Feff · Post by **Feff** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:08 am

heinz-oz wrote:I guess that is because it thinks the file is not DVD compliant.

I am wondering why Ulead dosent think that the VHS 2 Mpeg file is not compliant when it thinks that a digital TV recorded file is (when both have been run through VideoRedo the same way).

Thanks H-o

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:23 am

Because VideoRedo leaves it as is, no change in properties or frame size. Maybe it isn't compliant and VS is making it compliant.

What are the file properties for both, the clips that render quickly and the ones that don't?

Feff · Post by **Feff** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:30 am

heinz-oz wrote:Because VideoRedo leaves it as is, no change in properties or frame size. Maybe it isn't compliant and VS is making it compliant.

What are the file properties for both, the clips that render quickly and the ones that don't?

Its ok. Ive found out what is going on....

The capture settings was set at 4:3.

VideoRedo rendered file that same way.

When loading Ulead, 16:9 was ticked. I unticked it and Ulead converted the file in a minute (rather than 5 hours). Slight difference....

Thanks for everyones help!!!