The Black Magic HDMI card... The new HD capture standard maybe?? We're already hitting a lot of limits with firewire.
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/
New HD capture method!!
Canon HV20 (april) also has HDMI port.
However HDMI capture would use a LOT more disk space...
and require live computer access during shooting, for the primary benefit (capture full 1920x1080 resolution and no HDV compression.)
Otherwise, might as well capture via HDV (HDMI wouldn't have any date/time or timecode metadata either, which MSPro loses from HDV TS->MPG capture conversion...
However HDMI capture would use a LOT more disk space...
and require live computer access during shooting, for the primary benefit (capture full 1920x1080 resolution and no HDV compression.)
Otherwise, might as well capture via HDV (HDMI wouldn't have any date/time or timecode metadata either, which MSPro loses from HDV TS->MPG capture conversion...
Well... I sure stand corrected! Sorry, I thought for sure it had one... I have the HC3 and I just assumed...tyamada wrote:neonbob:
I don't know what HC1 you have but the one I am looking at doesn't have an HDMI port, the instruction book doesn't refer to one either.
That is why I made the comment about cameras not havin HDMI ports.
neonbob:
No biggie, most of the first and second generation HD Cameras don't have an HDMI port. Some of the newer cameras have HDMI but usually are the more expensive ones.
I would love to have HDMI on my HC1, that way there wouldn't be a tangle of cords, would you believe 5 cables to get HD and sound.
No biggie, most of the first and second generation HD Cameras don't have an HDMI port. Some of the newer cameras have HDMI but usually are the more expensive ones.
I would love to have HDMI on my HC1, that way there wouldn't be a tangle of cords, would you believe 5 cables to get HD and sound.
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RussB
Re: New HD capture method!!
I am experiencing a couple dropped frames when capturing HDV. Yes, I am following the "recommended procedures" (THANKS JC HUNTER !! and I'm sorry to see they've been lifted - fortunately I have a local copy and I appreciated especially the advice to invest in DivX... I am off track, aren't I?)neonbob wrote:The Black Magic HDMI card... The new HD capture standard maybe?? We're already hitting a lot of limits with firewire.
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/
Anyway, now I am looking at guidance that establishes a "Video Profile" - maybe that will help. The dropped frames come about 1 minute after capture starts and come at different points during capture of the same tape.
I'm really on a tangent here, aren't I?
I'd like to know if anyone has experience the same issue and if this could be related to the "limits of firewire" that you identified.
Thanks in advance.
Russ
These HDV cams connect via firewire at S100 speed. Firewire cards have 3 speeds and 400 is the fastest (usually the case for harddisks).I'd like to know if anyone has experience the same issue and if this could be related to the "limits of firewire" that you identified.
There's a conflict somewhere's if your dropping frames while capturing.
The HDMI card looks nice. I notice it's a PCI Express card.
Just wondering how much horsepower is required when using this card.
They reference a Mac desktop pro which happens to usually be dual 64 bit Xeon processors.
Most of the new AVCHD cams have HDMI connectors.
Those people could use this card.
These cards DO require a fair bit of horsepower... they are not something that will run on an average off- the-shelf machine that you but at BestBuy (for example). They capture totally uncompressed.... this by itself is enough to bog a lot of machines down. The harddrive space required is also HUGE...The data rate on uncompressed HD is something on the order of 745Mb/s. HDV is 25Mb/s. You'll need almost 30x the space for uncompressed HDV2. So you're looking at something like close to 400gig just for a 1 hr. capture.... then you need edit space.etech6355 wrote:These HDV cams connect via firewire at S100 speed. Firewire cards have 3 speeds and 400 is the fastest (usually the case for harddisks).I'd like to know if anyone has experience the same issue and if this could be related to the "limits of firewire" that you identified.
There's a conflict somewhere's if your dropping frames while capturing.
The HDMI card looks nice. I notice it's a PCI Express card.
Just wondering how much horsepower is required when using this card.
They reference a Mac desktop pro which happens to usually be dual 64 bit Xeon processors.
Most of the new AVCHD cams have HDMI connectors.
Those people could use this card.
This is by no means a cheap alternative to the various AVCHD editing problems!!!
I'm patiently waiting for panasonic to release it's HighDef Recorder.
It should have component inputs and be able to handle hd-mpeg2 TS via firewire port. I wouldn't expect it to have a hdmi input but that would be a nice feature. Records direct to dvd / HD-Dvd-Ram or Blu-Ray Disk.
Not sure about the Blu-Ray Disk Recording (would make it very expensive), I know they are working on a much Higher Capacity Ram Disk, also internal harddisk.
It should have component inputs and be able to handle hd-mpeg2 TS via firewire port. I wouldn't expect it to have a hdmi input but that would be a nice feature. Records direct to dvd / HD-Dvd-Ram or Blu-Ray Disk.
Not sure about the Blu-Ray Disk Recording (would make it very expensive), I know they are working on a much Higher Capacity Ram Disk, also internal harddisk.
I doubt they would put a HDMI input on either!! If you read the blackmagic card... there's no copy protection in this method of capture... you can copy protected material at will. This would be quite contrary to the direction that the copyright industry and DRM is heading.etech6355 wrote:I'm patiently waiting for panasonic to release it's HighDef Recorder.
It should have component inputs and be able to handle hd-mpeg2 TS via firewire port. I wouldn't expect it to have a hdmi input but that would be a nice feature. Records direct to dvd / HD-Dvd-Ram or Blu-Ray Disk.
Not sure about the Blu-Ray Disk Recording (would make it very expensive), I know they are working on a much Higher Capacity Ram Disk, also internal harddisk.