3 Hr DVD

[paulwho]

Can anyone give us some advise on burning a 3 hr mpeg file using VS9.
The video was captured using VS9 at lower field first 4000fps.
When I used fit to burn it was reduced down to 1300fps. It took 10 hrs to render & burn & the DVD was poor quality with some peculation.
Is my AMD 1.8 CPU big enough ? My RAM is 1gb.
Cheers Paul

[jchunter]

Your video is poor quality because your bitrate is too low. 1300Kbps is not enough for good quality. Stick with the original 4000Kbps. It is still substandard but will give much better quality then 1300.

BTW, a conventional DVD can hold 60 minutes at 8000Kbps (great quality). You might squeeze 2 hours at 4000. Double layer DVD might make 3 hours.

Your computer is a little light but OK.

[paulwho]

Thanks John > I thought as much. Looks like I'll have to edit back the 3 hrs or divide it into 2 DVD's.
Cheers Paul

[sjj1805]

Please view:
What bit rate settings should I use

The amount of video you can squeeze onto a DVD disc is a matter of what YOU consider to be acceptable quality.

Top notch quality like that of a DVD Movie from the shops = 1 hour on a standard DVD disc. Technically you could squeeze several hours onto a DVD disc. For my Home videos that is the quality I would want and so would tend to use more discs, higher quality and less video on each disc.

If on the other hand I decided to 'tape' a series of TV programs so I could watch the lot all in one go with the adverts removed I may be tempted to squeeze up to 3 hours onto one disc. Although you can squeeze more I tend to regard it as penny pinching and pushing the boat out too far.

Besides, I intend to keep my home movies but throw the TV recordings into the dustbin after watching them.

[GeorgeW]

Can anyone give us some advise on burning a 3 hr mpeg file using VS9.
The video was captured using VS9 at lower field first 4000fps.
When I used fit to burn it was reduced down to 1300fps. It took 10 hrs to render & burn & the DVD was poor quality with some peculation.
Is my AMD 1.8 CPU big enough ? My RAM is 1gb.
Cheers Paul

Out of curiosity, what was your video source, what hardware was involved for the video capture, what are the video and audio attributes of your 3-hour mpeg file, and how large is your 3-hour mpeg file

As the others noted -- good practice going forward would be to calc your bitrates ahead of time to avoid multiple compressions.

You might be able to go ahead and Author the 3-hour mpeg to DVD Folders on your computer, and then use DVD Shrink to "shrink" it down to size (this sometimes produces acceptable quality). You will want to use a compressed audio format such as Dolby Digital (AC3) or perhaps mpeg audio (NOTE: mpeg audio is ok for PAL, usually ok for NTSC, but some NTSC DVD Players might not be able to play mpeg audio).

Regards,
George

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Paul

Video studio 9 uses this template to convert Mpeg settings in the burner module.
These settings appear to be for 180 mins

MPEG files
24 Bits, 352 x 576, 25 fps
Lower Field First (keep your capture field order?????)
(DVD-PAL), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 2500 kbps)
Audio data rate: 224 kbps
MPEG audio layer 2, 48 KHz, Stereo

Your program should show the NTSC version.(edit-sorry you are Pal)

Notice it uses a smaller frame size, I think they called it Half D, others may qualify this.

Anyhow you should be able to use the Make Movie Manager to create a template then render from Share Create Video File

But it will take a long time to render as you found out.

As suggested it may be better to use two dvd¡¦s. Keep the bit rate at 4000.

Trevor

[GeorgeW]

Notice it uses a smaller frame size, I think they called it Half D, others may qualify this.

Yes, it's called Half D1 -- which can make your video look "better" when forced to use lower bitrates. It's one of the reasons I asked what was used to make the capture (and the video attributes) -- some devices will allow you to specify the resolution during capture. I had also noticed that the field order specified was "lower", so I was wondering what device (perhaps a dv device, and Ulead's dv-to-mpeg feature -- but that would indicate 3-hours without seeing that "flushing dv transcode" buffer message)

Regards,
George

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

I have not used this Half D1 option to create a dvd.

But I assume the dvd plays full screen, and not reflecting the small frame size. (24 Bits, 352 x 576, 25 fps)

I noticed it changed the horizontal to 352, the frame size should view like a portrait image, Strange.

Think I may have to render one.

Regards

Trevor

[sjj1805]

Hi

I have not used this Half D1 option to create a dvd.

But I assume the dvd plays full screen, and not reflecting the small frame size. (24 Bits, 352 x 576, 25 fps)

I noticed it changed the horizontal to 352, the frame size should view like a portrait image, Strange.

Think I may have to render one.

Regards

Trevor

It depends upon what your playing it back with.
On a computer you can choose full screen, normal size etc.
On your standalone DVD player it plays full screen.

On playback it looks like one created with the more traditional settings.
If you've ever created a VCD rather than a DVD you will know what I mean.

[GeorgeW]

As Steve mentioned -- on your TV it plays back "normal"

Some standalone DVD Recorders use 352x480 when using the ~4+ hour setting. They could even go to 352x240 (mpeg1) for a 6+ hour setting.

Regards,
George

[DVDDoug]

Or, you could get a dual-layer burner!