"Convert step got some problem" How to find out wh

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"Convert step got some problem" How to find out wh

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I record from my TV Tunner Card software and then open UVS 10+ to edit and burn.
Today I decided to capture from VS10 to see what it's like. I did a 2 hour video transfer and put in chapters. When I went to "Burn" it said, "Convert step got some problem." 275:0:0. I tried several different settings but I kept getting the same problem. It doesn't tell me what the problem is or how to fix it. What could be wrong?

Also, I've swiched settings around so much trying to solve this who knows what's fouled up now. Is there a way to re-set everything to dafault?

Seems strange that files recorded in other software will burn but somthing done in UVS 10 wouldn't.
Anybody know what could be wrong? Any way to find out what is wrong?
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This error message has perhaps one of the most troublesome to solve because the error message doesn't explain why it fell over.

I recently had this error and discovered that it was due to overlapping buttons in a DVD menu. This same error can indicate problems with the source files or incorrect settings or a fault with the computer itself.

To solve this type of error is a long drawn out process of elimination.
If you have followed the recommended procedure as per
This post
(One of the most important items is to create an MPEG2 File BEFORE you enter the Share | Create Disc Module) then you need to start making changes to your DVD Menu structure, one item at a time.

To cut down on the amount of time taken, temporarily turn OFF any motion effects such as motion background and motion thumbnails. This will enable the menu making process to work quicker. Burn to a Hard Drive Folder to avoid wasting any blank discs.

Follow a methodical approach and firstly try a different menu template - to eliminate the one being used as a problem. Then try different (or no) background sound for the menu.

Hopefully you will be able to find the cause of this niggling error.
Also ensure that you have checked the Ulead Website for and installed any update patches.

Finally check this post
DVD burning/playback issues
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Put the video file on the harddrive. Stil had problem.
I used UVS7 until I had problems, then lost interest. Looks like VS 10 is only good for a few transfers before it goes bad also. I'll probable end up skipping the putting my VHS on Disc again.
Wish I would of known 10 has bugs and doens't work before I payed for it.
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Not everyone has problems. In fact, mine works fine, so it's not necessarily the fault of the software. Sometimes it's a hardware/software conflict, sometimes user error.

Have you read, and followed, the Recommended Procedure? (http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=27)

Please give us as much detail as to your clip and project properties as well as your workflow. Maybe someone can help you solve your problem.
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I've run into this many times and for a whole slew of reasons. The most common in my experience have been when:
1. Two-pass encode is checked
2. Audio is set to something other than LPCM
3. I have done something non-standard in the menus (this is less often the case than the above).

Others may have insight into how to get the above project properties to work, but I just avoid the issue.
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One problem is contradictory information. In the link it says to have sound set to MPEG, another post says LPCM.

I did a few without any problems. How can I get VS to swich to default on all the settings? I've swiched settings around trying to get it to work I don't know where I'm at now.


I think yours works fine now but later on you'll have problems.
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happydog500 wrote:One problem is contradictory information. In the link it says to have sound set to MPEG, another post says LPCM.

I did a few without any problems. How can I get VS to swich to default on all the settings? I've swiched settings around trying to get it to work I don't know where I'm at now.


I think yours works fine now but later on you'll have problems.
A lot of what we do is opinion, one person finds a method that works with his/her equipment but it doesn't work for another user who has slightly different equipment.

What we have managed to find out by exchanging our experiences with other members are things that appear to work more for the majority of users and so these tend to be 'We suggest you try doing it this way.'

LPCM is an uncompressed audio format and so should technically give you less trouble than a compressed format. MPEG is a compressed format.
MPEG is however a misleading term because it comes in many 'flavours' (a bit like cheese) although I myself have had no problems using MPEG files created with the Lame MPEG encoder, many users of this forum appear to suffer.

I suppose that's why it is called the lame MPEG encoder.

As I stated earlier in this thread, the error message "Convert Step Has some problems" is about as much use as saying "My car will not start."
It is therefore one of the most troublesome problems for anyone to solve and so it becomes a case of trial and error.

The first suggestion that we can make is to point you at certain workflows that users have found work for them so that you can at least see if you are doing things the same or differently and may give you a clue where you can make changes to your workflow.

The problem though with this error is that it may or may not be workflow related, it could also be hardware related, software conflict or faulty source material.

My workflow is set out here:
Suggested workflow by SJJ1805 for Video Creation
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To further muddy the waters on opinions, Steve's comments on Lame MPEG is a bit misleading. Lame is of course a codec for mpeg layer 3 (or MP3) audio. Now Video Studio will recognise most mp3 audio if you insert it into a project (though having trouble with some mp3 produced, it seems, with the Lame codec).

BUT MP3 is NOT part of the DVD audio settings. Then it has to be converted to a PAL audio format.

The only valid video DVD audio settings are: for both PAL and NTSC -- LPCM (which is the rock standard format, though producing large files), and Dolby AC-3 audio (highly compressed though very good quality).

PAL can also use (and here's the confusion) mpeg layer 2 audio (similar compression to Dolby and also good quality). But mpeg layer 2 audio is not part of the NTSC DVD standard, so there may be older players out there which might have difficulty with it -- though in practice most modern players do not seem to have such a difficulty.

As for your immediate problem, you said it in one:
When I went to "Burn" it said, "Convert step got some problem."
You will read the detail in Steve's link. But essentially, going straight from the edited project to the timeline causes a lot of people trouble because it is very demanding of computer resources. You are expecting the computer to convert the video and do the muxing of video and audio, build and convert the menus to video and actually burn, all on the fly.

If, as you have, got that mysterious message, something has gone wrong with your workflow. In that case, go back to your project in the timeline and choose Share > Create Video File > DVD. This will do the conversion to DVD-compatible mpeg-2 in a separate step -- one less strain on the computer in the burning stage! :lol:

If you haven't applied SP1 to VS10, then you will lose the chapter points inserted at the editing stage. However, you can reinsert them in the menu/chapter building stage in the burning module.
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I record from my TV Tunner Card software and then open UVS 10+ to edit and burn. Today I decided to capture from VS10 to see what it's like.
So, the difference is the source of the video files. You have a corrupt video file. I call it "sneaky corruption", because the video file often plays back fine, but causes trouble when you try to convert, re-code, or re-multiplex it. This makes the problem very difficult to track-down.
Seems strange that files recorded in other software will burn but somthing done in UVS 10 wouldn't.
Some capture hardware and software just don't "play well together". My theory is that the drivers are not as standardized as more common computer peripherals, like printers.

I always recommend that you use the capture software that came with your capture device. Once you have a digital file on your hard drive, you can use the software of your choice for video editing and/or DVD authoring.

FYI- I have sometimes had MPEG-2 files get corrupted during editing.
I used UVS7 until I had problems, then lost interest.
Digital Video is not easy! There are several steps involved, and it usually takes some trial-an-error, and practice to figure-out a procedure that works with your particular hardware, file formats, and project goals. (Analog capture is the trickiest step.)
Looks like VS 10 is only good for a few transfers before it goes bad also.
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I will try it again with my Software that came with my TV Card. When record an hour show, take out the comericals, it's only 45 minutes. At 8000fps, it's in the 3GB range. To make my file fit more of the DVD, I cranked it up to 9000. Is that to high? Should I put it back to 8000?
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happydog500 wrote:I will try it again with my Software that came with my TV Card. When record an hour show, take out the comericals, it's only 45 minutes. At 8000fps, it's in the 3GB range. To make my file fit more of the DVD, I cranked it up to 9000. Is that to high? Should I put it back to 8000?
There's really no reason to "make your file fit more of the DVD." And if you do use LPCM audio (as referenced in one of your posts above), then LPCM audio combined with 9000kbps is over the "legal" limit (DVD Specs). I would also say that LPCM audio with 8000kbps video is dangerously high on burned DVD's (i.e. some DVD Players might not play your dvd properly).

I recommend keeping the total bitrate (Video+audio) <= ~7,500kbps (but some have success with higher bitrates -- there are alot of variables in making a widely compatible DVD).

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I did one at 4500 to get 2 hours on a disc and it looked like crap. 2 hours of DVD looks quite a bit worse then 2 hours of VHS, even when the vhs is set to 6 hours.

I took the VHS and copied it to another VHS, using the 6 hours mode. I took the source VHS and copied it to DVD in the 2 hours mode. I played the VHS copy and the DVD copy and swiched back and forth while both where playing. The VHs looks real good. The DVD looks very poor.

A VHS copy looks quite a bit better then a DVD copy. The exception maybe when you only put an hour on the DVD.
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I think we are now making progress. Are you saying that the source of your video is a VHS that was recorded in long play mode rather than standard play. If so I would expect some detioriation in quality as your source file is already in a low quality - albeit not readily visible.

I transferred several hundred VHS tapes for myself and friends to DVD and found that those recorded in VHS Long Play Mode were inferior to those recorded in VHS standard mode.
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Sorry I wasn't clear.

In my test, I used a source VHS in SP. I copied it in a VHS in SLP to compair it to a DVD copy. I wanted to see the difference in quality in a VHS to a DVD.
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In that case I can only reinforce the advice given by DVDDoug above.
I have two Hauppauge TV cards (in different computers)
a PVR 350 PCI in one, and a HVR1300 in the other.

I tend to use WinTV2000 to do my recordings from either of these two TV cards. That is software native to the Hauppauge TV cards - the software that turns your computer into a TV set.

After editing with another item of software I own, I create my DVD Menus with one of my Ulead Products.

Whilst I can record from these TV cards with a Ulead product my view is that the software that comes with the card is especially made to work with it, whilst Ulead (or anyone else's) software is a general purpose capture software that will try and capture anything from anywhere.

That is not derogatory it is in fact quite useful if you come by a piece of hardware - perhaps second hand - without the software for it.
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